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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    welcome to the white house, barry

    are you sure this is what you wanted?

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    President Obama is visiting the scene of the oil spill this week. I hope he can negotiate with the spill better than he did with the wildfires in California last year, which can be seen here.


    Obama To Enter Diplomatic Talks With Raging Wildfire | The Onion - America's Finest News Source | Onion News Network
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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Polynikes View Post
    President Obama is visiting the scene of the oil spill this week. I hope he can negotiate with the spill better than he did with the wildfires in California last year, which can be seen here.
    HE can hardly do worse than Bush did at negotiating with hurricanes.

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    no, he can't do much worse than bush

    but he's trying

    the results, by the way, are in---bush was a loser

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    No George Washington probably wasnt not qualified to put on a wet suit and fix an oil well but this probably would not have stopped him from trying because it was something that needed done.

    Perhaps my comments are simplistic. I am a simple person that has a very difficult time expressing myself in written form and I am often times misunderstood. I appolgise for this.

    I do not think anyone has understood what I am trying to say here so I will just move on.
    I got it, which is why you got the thanks. I know what you're getting at, too many politicians, too many talking heads, not enough doers, and way too few statesmen.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    HE can hardly do worse than Bush did at negotiating with hurricanes.
    Well, hurricanes are ornery.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Well, hurricanes are ornery.
    Seriously. Whereas oil is just slick.

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That's because it isn't their job to do so. There is more important work for a president to do, on average, than bailing oil out of the gulf. Yeah, it would be heart-warming. So what?

    We don't hire them to bail oil. We hire them to administer the people who do.
    Precisely the point most posters here are making.

    Instead of taking trips elsewhere while this catastrophe is unfolding, giving news about HIS decision to no longer pursue HIS promise of Immigration reform in HIS first year, we have this Oratorical nightmare yapping on about anything other than the matter at hand.

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    did you hear his weekly radio address?

    Obama urges Congress to act quickly on campaign finance reform - latimes.com

    LOL!

    he has no clue what the presidency is all about

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    “Right now we are over-responding with resources to manage the potential spill here. We will be well-prepared to manage whatever comes.” — BP spokesman Tom Mueller†
    I posted that quote on April 25. “We will be well-prepared to manage whatever comes.” I guess things turned out differently than that BP spokesman told us. Do you think BP's statements misled government authorities, too? I do.

    It should be remembered that Hurricane Katrina directly and indirectly killed more than 1,800 people and that survivors waited for days or weeks for rescue. People were still receiving so-called FEMA trailers years after the event.[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina"]†[/ame]


    Comparing the feckless government response implemented by the Bush administration in the wake of Hurricane Katrina to what we have seen so far, with the Coast Guard on the scene within hours and the Navy called in immediately once the true extent of the spillage was understood, really can't be understood as anything but hyper-partisan dribble.

    Excerpted from “The Gulf Coast BP Oil Spill: A Timeline” By Justin Elliott, TPMMuckraker, April 30, 2010, 2:28PM
    Ten days ago, after an explosion occurred on BP's Deepwater Horizon rig off the Gulf Coast, the initial word from the Coast Guard was that there was no oil spill. That soon changed as the government announced that 1,000 barrels of thick oil per day were spilling into the ocean.

    Then, in a dramatic shift on Wednesday evening, the government changed its 1,000 barrels estimate to 5,000 barrels per day. BP initially rejected the new estimate about the spill, which experts now believe could be worse than the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster.

    … TPMmuckraker decided to take a look at the course of events, and the shifting public statements of company and government officials on the spill.

    • April 20: At around 10 p.m. a fire is reported … on the Deepwater Horizon rig, owned by Transocean Ltd. and under lease to energy giant BP, according to an April 21 statement from Transocean. There is no mention of any possible spill. Eleven workers are killed.

    • April 22: With the media coverage of the explosion focusing on the missing workers and, initially, not about the possibility of a spill, AFP notes the possibility of an environmental disaster: the rig had been drilling 8,000 barrels of oil per day, and had 700,000 gallons of diesel fuel on board. "Worst case scenario, there is a potential environmental threat," Coast Guard spokeswoman Katherine McNamara tells the wire service. BP's chief executive, Tony Hayward, says BP will do "everything in our power to contain this oil spill and resolve the situation as rapidly, safely and effectively as possible." The company said it dispatched a team to deal with the oil that dispersed from the original blast.

    • April 23: The day after the rig sank, the AP reports: "Coast Guard Rear Adm. Mary Landry said Friday morning that no oil appeared to be leaking from the well head at the ocean floor, nor was any leaking at the water's surface. However, Landry said crews were closely monitoring the rig for any more crude that might spill out.

    • April 24: In the late afternoon, the AP reports that the Coast Guard has reversed its earlier statement that there was no oil leaking. The wire service quotes Guard officials as saying an estimated 1,000 barrels of oil per day are coming out of the well head on the ocean floor, 5,000 feet under water. Landry says that the oil may have been pouring out since the rig sank on April 22.

      BP's chief operating officer, Doug Suttles, speaking about options on responding to the spill, says, "Over the next several days, we should determine which method is the best one to follow"

    • April 26: BP says in a press release it is 'accelerating offshore oil recovery and continuing well control efforts. Improved weather "combined with the light, thin oil we are dealing with has further increased our confidence that we can tackle this spill offshore," says BP chief exec Tony Hayward.

    • April 27: After underwater robots fail to stop the flow of oil, the coast guard floats the idea of containing pools of oil in containment booms and then setting it on fire. Meanwhile, BP says it will begin drilling a new relief well near the spill site later in the week; the process could take months.

      Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA), chair of the Energy and Commerce committee, writes a letter (.pdf) to the chairman of BP notifying him of an investigation into "what the companies knew about the risks of drilling at the site and the adequacy of the companies' response plans." He charges that "[a] striking feature of the incident is the apparent lack of an adequate plan to contain the spreading environmental damage. The two companies involved, BP Exploration and Production, Inc., and Transocean Ltd., are attempting to contain the oil spilling from the well with techniques that have never been used before at these ocean depths."

      Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar announce an investigation of the explosion.

    • April 28: Late Wednesday, the Coast Guard announces that 5,000, not 1,000, barrels a day of oil are spilling, citing a new National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration estimate. At the same press conference as the Coast Guard announcement, BP COO Doug Suttle disputes the new estimate and argues that a newly discovered leak does not change the rate of the spill. "He showed a diagram showing where the leaks are and said the newly discovered leak is upstream from the previous leaks," the AP reports.

    • April 29: Suttle acknowledges on the Today Show that the government's new estimate may be accurate. In a Rose Garden statement, Obama says the Administration will use "every single available resource" to address the spill, including the military. He also says BP will have to pay the costs.
    “Real environmentalists live in cities, and they visit what's left of the wilderness as gently and respectfully as possible.” — Donna Moulton, letter to the editor, Tucson Weekly, published on August 23, 2001

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