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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    April 30th 2010
    (AP) - The White House says President Barack Obama won't be heading to the Gulf Coast in the next few days. But press secretary Robert Gibbs left open the possibility of a later presidential visit to assess the spreading oil spill.
    May 1st 2010
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    (President Obama plans to visit the catastrophe zone off Lousiana's coast within the next 48 hours as SecDef Gates mobilizes the Lousiana National Guard and WH convenes a principal-level homeland security response meeting. Republicans begin to question speed of Obama's response.)
    When the Master Orator or his Press Secretary pass out two conflicting statements within 2 days I feel we are entitled to ask, what does he intend doing?

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    When the Master Orator or his Press Secretary pass out two conflicting statements within 2 days I feel we are entitled to ask, what does he intend doing?
    Is there benefit to be gained by having Obama on site?

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    He dispatched the Navy and the Coast Guard. Did people think he was going to put on a wet suit and go down himself to fix things?
    That made me chuckle.

    Im not picking on Obama here, its our politians as a whole really. I personally feel our founding fathers were made from a different mold then any of our recent leaders. They were men of action and much less men of office. I could very well see George Washington in the gulf, in a canoe, with a 5 gallon bucket skimming the water. While this may not have made a difference in the whole of things, I believe he would have done it anyway because he felt he had to try and do any and everything possible to fix the situation.

    Now our leaders are much more men of office that organize and direct others and very rarely get there own hands dirty doing anything.

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    That made me chuckle.

    Im not picking on Obama here, its our politians as a whole really. I personally feel our founding fathers were made from a different mold then any of our recent leaders. They were men of action and much less men of office. I could very well see George Washington in the gulf, in a canoe, with a 5 gallon bucket skimming the water. While this may not have made a difference in the whole of things, I believe he would have done it anyway because he felt he had to try and do any and everything possible to fix the situation.

    Now our leaders are much more men of office that organize and direct others and very rarely get there own hands dirty doing anything.
    While I agree that it would make me feel all warm and fuzzy to see Obama doing this, I have to say, I think there are definitely better ways for any President to spend his time. I certainly never criticized Bush for not, say, pitching in to help dig people out of the Twin Towers. I would have never dreamed of it.

    There are only so many hours in a day. A person has got to prioritize. Presidents are persons. soooo....

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Now our leaders are much more men of office that organize and direct others and very rarely get there own hands dirty doing anything.
    That's because it isn't their job to do so. There is more important work for a president to do, on average, than bailing oil out of the gulf. Yeah, it would be heart-warming. So what?

    We don't hire them to bail oil. We hire them to administer the people who do.

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Is there benefit to be gained by having Obama on site?
    Actually its quite the opposite. Him being there would distract resources from the task at hand.

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Actually its quite the opposite. Him being there would distract resources from the task at hand.
    That's my thought as well. There are people out there that have the best clue possible working on this, it's probably best to leave them to the task.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Actually its quite the opposite. Him being there would distract resources from the task at hand.
    That's my thinking, as well. When Bush visited the areas impacted by Katrina, it actually pulled personnel away from more important tasks to protect him. It endangered the people that he was supposed to be visiting.

    Obama does not need to be on site for the proper work to be done. And thank god, he's been smart enough, up to this point, to know this.


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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    He dispatched the Navy and the Coast Guard. Did people think he was going to put on a wet suit and go down himself to fix things?



    Once it became clear that those agencies were unable to fix the problem and that this was potentially a massive catastrophe, it was then appropriate for Obama to visit himself and send his people.

    But, the role of a president is primarily to ensure that the proper people to do the job are delegated to do so.
    He didn't dispatch the Coast Guard, they were probably on their way before Obi knew what was going on.

    Why did it take 8-days to get his ass into gear?
    This is what the Feds are supposed to be leaders in. Disaster relief. Not nationalizing the country industry by industry.

    Where was Obi?

    Right, he was out pandering and Balkanizing Amerika.
    Crapping on Wall Street.
    Telling people that there is a limit to what they should earn.

    Nice job Schlo-Mo.

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    Re: Oil slick poses political peril for Obama

    this thing is an environmental disaster

    it's still bleeding at a precipitous rate, there's no stopping it, and it's likely to leak faster

    it's gonna hit the EASTERN coast of florida

    for EIGHT DAYS obama did nothing

    indeed, admiral mary landry of the coast guard said on day 2: "the oil that was on the surface appeared to be merely residual oil from the fire"

    anyone with a memory couldn't help but flash back to dhs' immediate response to mutallab's attempt to blow a plane out of the skies over detroit on christmas

    a genuine "the system worked" moment

    indeed, napolitano's dept of homeland security waited until DAY EIGHT to declare the gulf disaster "a spill of national significance"

    not until DAY EIGHT did she "request a more robust response from the dod"

    the white house has done nothing to contain this catastrophe

    except play politics

    and the admin is becoming increasingly defensive

    gibbs released a "readout" of all the calls to governors the white house has made

    a phone log---LOL!

    these are the actions the white house has taken

    on DAY EIGHT it (because this president is proficient at pointing fingers) began blaming bp

    he said he wasn't gonna go to louisiana

    then he said he was

    he originally stood by his plan to drill off the eastern seaboard and above alaska

    then the next day he reversed himself and put his plan on hold

    unbelievable

    so what in the way of real action has the white house taken in resonse to this catastrophe?

    on DAY SEVEN, tuesday, april 27: HE WENT BACK TO IOWA!

    LOL!

    for the SECOND TIME since health care passed, he went to campaign kickoff country

    last time his purpose, he said, was to convince his african american, youth, female and hispanic base that the health care he'd just CRAMMED was actually good for them

    this time, he visited ottumwa, according to the ny times, to: "criticize senate republicans for blocking proposed legislation to tighten regulation of the financial system," to "convince voters before the midterm elections that his economic policies were working despite the high unemployment rate," to "extol the benefits of the economic stimulus plan..."

    THESE are your president's priorities

    the most incompetent, CRASS politician at the national level america has ever produced

    too slick

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