One of you will end up here next!
This explains why the CBO, although non partisan and dedicated to this sort of thing, has to give an artificial estimate
Op-Ed Contributor - The Real Arithmetic of Health Care Reform - NYTimes.com
Here is another from the other side of the aisle
Paul Ryan v. the President - WSJ.com
And are you really suggesting that the debate on health care reform is settled and not up for debate?
tell it to mark critz
.. another empty promise from John the Boner.
Whodda thunk it?
RealClearPolitics - 2010 Election Maps - Battle for the House
say goodbye to the pernicious provision that individuals must buy an exorbitantly expensive PRIVATE product, for starters
mark ross will vote with US
heck, after november, ms woolsey might
First, let's see whether that other party, the one that started all the deficit spending during the last administration and still calls itself "conservative" will get a majority next time around,
The, let's see if they can actually improve on an admittedly imperfect measure, and perhaps do what should have been done initially, which has to be done sooner or later, which is to
Maybe so, maybe not. Time will tell.
Can't we just turn Congress off and then turn it back on again?
McCain: We Will Defund Health Care Reform - Blog - OpenCongressTo be clear, appropriations bills, which are the legislative vehicles Congress uses to disperse money to the government, can be vetoed by the President and would require a veto override from Congress to then become law. What McCain is talking about, presumably, is engaging in a game of appropriations chicken.
A Republican-led Congress would send Obama an appropriations bill minus the money for enacting the health care law and dare him to veto it. If he vetoes it, no funds are appropriated and unless Congress folds and sends it back with the health care money included, funding for the government would start to run out. Most of the health care funding would be contained in the Labor-HHS-Education appropriations bill, which funds a lot of the programs that get the most use, like public schools, low-income heating assistance, unemployment insurance, job training, and public broadcasting, so it would be a very high-stakes game.
Wonk Room Will Republicans Be Able To Defund Health Care Reform?As Fabian notes, “Eliminating funds for the health law would likely be done through the appropriations process in Congress, but it is unclear how Republicans would accomplish their goal by sidestepping a veto. Under the constitution, the president has the right to veto any bill that is passed by Congress.” Indeed, it’s also unclear how much damage the Republicans could actually do, since most of the reform legislation is funded through mandatory spending, which is harder for Congress to control than discretionary spending.
Mandatory spending, such as Medicare and Medicaid, continues from year to year unless Congress passes new legislation to reduce it; discretionary spending, which covers most of the day-to-day operations of federal agencies, is appropriated every year in annual appropriations bills. It’s far easier for Congress to adjust an appropriations mark than muster the political support to pass new legislation to defund the new Medicaid expansion or affordability credits to middle class Americans.
Are Republicans ready for a game of chicken?
I thought Republicans said it needed to be scrapped and the process to be re-started? Then which portions would they repeal?Originally Posted by cholla
we'll start with the individual mandate, it's politically pernicious, poisonous, ie, extremely unpopular
the exemption for seiu would be low hanging fruit
the secret deal with phrma pisses off the left more than the right
the mandate on states is completely impracticable
i could go on, but that's good enough for ante