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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Buck a lot of state don't have that this makes it go National.

    Key Provisions That Take Effect Immediately

    I get my information from the bill it self not a talking head.
    I get my information from working in the industry for 15+ years. Not an Obama sponsored website extolling the virtues of the bill he got passed.

    All insurance commissioners have the power to regulate premiums, or would at least be an easy fix to make it so. There are few states that do not currently have that power. Those states chose not to do so for various reasons that are unique to their states. It's a big power grab by the feds.
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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    SMALL BUSINESS TAX CREDITS—Offers tax credits to small businesses to make employee coverage more affordable. Tax credits of up to 35 percent of premiums will be available to firms that choose to offer coverage. Effective beginning calendar year 2010. (Beginning in 2014, the small business tax credits will cover 50 percent of premiums.)
    Increases unemployment. Also very poorly worded. It's spinning the true meaning of the bill.

    NO DISCRIMINATION AGAINST CHILDREN WITH PRE‐EXISTING CONDITIONS—Prohibits new health plans in all markets plus grandfathered group health plans from denying coverage to children with pre‐existing conditions. Effective 6 months after enactment. (Beginning in 2014, this prohibition would apply to all persons.)
    If it's just children, I can accept this. Will create a higher premium, but understandable.

    HELP FOR UNINSURED AMERICANS WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS UNTIL EXCHANGE IS AVAILABLE (INTERIM HIGH‐RISK POOL)—Provides access to affordable insurance for Americans who are uninsured because of a pre‐existing condition through a temporary subsidized high‐risk pool. Effective in 2010.
    As someone with degrees in both economics and finance, I am really going to try and refrain from commenting about the fallacies of risk pooling. And frankly, I doubt you'd understand anyway.

    ENDS RESCISSIONS—Bans insurance companies from dropping people from coverage when they get sick. Effective 6 months after enactment.
    Doesn't bother me, as long as they were given a clean bill of health upon acquiring insurance.

    BEGINS TO CLOSE THE MEDICARE PART D DONUT HOLE—Provides a $250 rebate to Medicare beneficiaries who hit the donut hole in 2010. Effective for calendar year 2010. (Beginning in 2011, institutes a 50% discount on prescription drugs in the donut hole; also completely closes the donut hole by 2020.)
    Complete lie. It's already been shown that this bill will slash Medicare by 60 billion.

    FREE PREVENTIVE CARE UNDER MEDICARE—Eliminates co‐payments for preventive services and exempts preventive services from deductibles under the Medicare program. Effective beginning January 1, 2011.
    I support it.

    EXTENDS COVERAGE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE UP TO 26TH BIRTHDAY THROUGH PARENTS’ INSURANCE—Requires new health plans and certain grandfathered plans to allow young people up to their 26th birthday to remain on their parents’ insurance policy, at the parents’ choice. Effective 6 months after enactment.
    I support it.

    HELP FOR EARLY RETIREES—Creates a temporary re‐insurance program (until the Exchanges are available) to help offset the costs of expensive premiums for employers and retirees for health benefits for retirees age 55‐64. Effective in 2010.
    Oh this is just funny. This just creates a butterfly effect in forcing businesses to push old people out before they become a huge liability.

    BANS LIFETIME LIMITS ON COVERAGE—Prohibits health insurance companies from placing lifetime caps on coverage. Effective 6 months after enactment.
    Very much against this. This would cause some very sickly people to force redistribution on the taxpayer. It also shirks responsibility away from people who make poor choices. If you smoke 20 years and find yourself unable to be covered because your lung cancer and emphyzema is too expensive, go die in a ditch somewhere off my paycheck.

    BANS RESTRICTIVE ANNUAL LIMITS ON COVERAGE—Tightly restricts the use of annual limits to ensure access to needed care in all new plans and grandfathered group health plans. These tight restrictions will be defined by HHS. Effective 6 months after enactment. (Beginning in 2014, the use of any annual limits would be prohibited for all new plans and grandfathered group health plans.)
    Same as above.

    FREE PREVENTIVE CARE UNDER NEW PRIVATE PLANS—Requires new private plans to cover preventive services with no co‐payments and with preventive services being exempt from deductibles. Effective 6 months after enactment.
    I support it.

    NEW, INDEPENDENT APPEALS PROCESS—Ensures consumers in new plans have access to an effective internal and external appeals process to appeal decisions by their health insurance plan. Effective 6 months after enactment.
    Oh great. Another massive financial drain at the taxpayer's expense. To give you a further idea, the appeal process is the reason why it's more expensive to sentence an inmate to die than it is to imprison him for the rest of his life. Appeals are a waste.

    ENSURES VALUE FOR PREMIUM PAYMENTS—Requires plans in the individual and small group market to spend 80 percent of premium dollars on medical services, and plans in the large group market to spend 85 percent. Insurers that do not meet these thresholds must provide rebates to policyholders. Effective on January 1, 2011.
    Once again, as above, it creates a huge fallacy with risk management. These guys just have no clue.

    COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS—Increases funding for Community Health Centers to allow for nearly a doubling of the number of patients seen by the centers over the next 5 years. Effective beginning in fiscal year 2011.
    Yeah, that's what we need -revolving door medical care. Obama's policies are already going to change a medical labor shortage to a crisis, and now we want to take the few professionals out there and heap even more patients and responsibilities on them. Gee, I wonder if I smell disaster...

    INCREASES THE NUMBER OF PRIMARY CARE PRACTITIONERS—Provides new investments to increase the number of primary care practitioners, including doctors, nurses, nurse practitioners, and physician assistants. Effective beginning in fiscal year 2011.
    AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

    PROHIBITS DISCRIMINATION BASED ON SALARY—Prohibits new group health plans from establishing any eligibility rules for health care coverage that have the effect of discriminating in favor of higher wage employees. Effective 6 months after enactment.
    Sounds good. Pretty soon the upper middle class will just take their balls and go home. At least if you didn't punish them, you could keep them in the loop and create a symbiotic relationship with those who don't make as much. If I was in that tax bracket, I'd just get a select premium private insurance, find a doctor that only takes it, and just leave leeching poor people to fend for themselves on the government's dime.

    HEALTH INSURANCE CONSUMER INFORMATION—Provides aid to states in establishing offices of health insurance consumer assistance in order to help individuals with the filing of complaints and appeals. Effective beginning in fiscal year 2010.
    Novel idea, but incredibly costly. Moreso with that employment field crisis I mentioned above.

    HOLDS INSURANCE COMPANIES ACCOUNTABLE FOR UNREASONABLE RATE HIKES—Creates a grant program to support States in requiring health insurance companies to submit justification for all requested premium increases, and insurance companies with excessive or unjustified premium exchanges may not be able to participate in the new Health Insurance Exchanges. Starting in plan year 2011.
    Not only costly, but discrimination. Absolutely awful.

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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Don't need 67 votes. A simple majority can vote down any budget which includes appropriations from the health care bill in it.
    The OP says, "GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law". Notice the bolded word?
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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
    This is a health care law that is going to bankrupt the system.

    Improving the health care system is not at issue here, being able to honestly pay for the improvements is.
    CBO says it will reduce the deficit.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    CBO says it will reduce the deficit.
    Erm, you do realize how thoroughly discredited that claim has been? Even the left has almost completely abandoned it.

    10 years of revenue overlapped with 6 years of spending. The most well-known trick used, but not the only one.

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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    reds are gonna take the house, count on it

    progressives got problems

    on may 18 we're gonna replace jack murtha, the second most corrupt man after rangel in dc

    the DAILY KOS has republican tim burns leading by six

    pa12 is the only district in the nation to vote for jfkerry in 04 and maverick mccain in 08

    it's the countryside north of pittsburg, it's catholic, it's coal

    it's racist, according to murtha

    'Rednecks' cracks may cost Murtha - Josh Kraushaar - POLITICO.com

    whether it's prejudiced or not, obama is very unpopular there, his unfavorables leading his positives by 55 to 38

    Special election for Murtha's seat tilts toward the GOP - The Hill's Ballot Box

    about 30% feel STRONGLY unfavorable towards the fool

    western pennsylvanians want health care REPEALED by a margin of 48 to 34

    all this, according to KOS!

    kos polling was the only national outfit to get MARTHA COAKLEY wrong!

    LOL!

    RealClearPolitics - Election 2010 - Massachusetts Senate - Special Election

    we're gonna take murtha's seat, tuesday, may 18, watch for it

    we're gonna take the house

    we're gonna completely overturn obamacare, we're gonna have a MANDATE

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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    Who gives a **** if the Republicans get voted in, in November. Repealing Health Care reform is almost impossible and they're just gonna screw you over just as bad as the democrats did. Republicans and Democrats are as incompetant as eachother. Their idiotic dogma's against eachother do nothing to serve you, only themselves. So until you scrap your two party system, and start coming together, instead of blaming eachother for all your troubles. You're screwed.

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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    now, there's a solution grounded in reality---scrap the 2 party system

    LOL!

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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    now, there's a solution grounded in reality---scrap the 2 party system

    LOL!
    can't read you sometimes Prof. You agreeing with me or mocking me

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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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