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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    Just a little background to know where the Op-Ed contributor - Douglas Holtz-Eakin - is coming from.

    Douglas Holtz-Eakin in addition to being director of the CBO from 2003-2005, was also the chief economic policy adviser to U.S. Senator John McCain‘s 2008 presidential campaign. He's the president of the American Action Forum, a self-admitted center-right policy institute that includes members such as Norm Coleman, Jeb Bush and Tom Ridge.



    Here are a couple of rebuttals/explanations relative to Holtz-Eakin's Op-Ed.


    Center on Budget and Policy Priorites

    Health Reform Will Reduce the Deficit — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


    and the CBO themselves

    Director's Blog Blog Archive Uncertainty in Estimates for Health Care Legislation
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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    I read some portions of the Center on Budget and Policy's report and will have to read the rest later this evening once I get home. I like reading non-partician critiques of the issues because they're not slanted on either the right or left. From what I've read so far, it would appear the fears Conservatives have on health care reform adding to the deficit are completely unfounded. But like I said, I'll have to read both reports in their entirety and post back on them later.

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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Just a little background to know where the Op-Ed contributor - Douglas Holtz-Eakin - is coming from.

    Douglas Holtz-Eakin in addition to being director of the CBO from 2003-2005, was also the chief economic policy adviser to U.S. Senator John McCain‘s 2008 presidential campaign. He's the president of the American Action Forum, a self-admitted center-right policy institute that includes members such as Norm Coleman, Jeb Bush and Tom Ridge.



    Here are a couple of rebuttals/explanations relative to Holtz-Eakin's Op-Ed.


    Center on Budget and Policy Priorites

    Health Reform Will Reduce the Deficit — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


    and the CBO themselves

    Director's Blog Blog Archive Uncertainty in Estimates for Health Care Legislation

    From the link

    Some analysts believe that CBO is underestimating the ultimate costs of the new subsidies to buy health insurance (which could make the legislation deficit-increasing instead of deficit-reducing). Others assert that CBO is underestimating the ultimate savings from changes in the Medicare program (which could make the legislation reduce deficits by more than we have estimated). Certainly, the budgetary impact of broad changes in the nation’s health care and health insurance systems is very uncertain. However, CBO staff, in consultation with outside experts, has devoted a great deal of care and effort to this analysis, and the agency strives to develop estimates that reflect the middle of the distribution of possible outcomes. As a result, we believe that CBO’s estimates of the net savings that would result from the legislation have a roughly equal chance of turning out to be too high or too low.

    Not real confident here


    Focusing on another area of concern, some observers argue that CBO’s estimates are unrealistic because the Congress will not allow the Medicare spending cuts and future tax increases in the proposals to take effect. CBO’s responsibility to the Congress is to estimate the effects of proposals as written and not to forecast future legislation.


    From the horses mouth

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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    You know, if the republicans get a majority and actually do overturn the healthcare bill, I can see them losing the majority in the next election, and another bill getting passed. I could actually see congress see-sawing over this for awhile.
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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    Last edited by The Prof; 05-07-10 at 08:35 PM.

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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Sorry, sweetie, that's not quite how it works.

    The don't score 'claims'.
    They score bills as written. If that was written into the bill, by law, they have to score it in that manner.

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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    You know, if the republicans get a majority and actually do overturn the healthcare bill, I can see them losing the majority in the next election, and another bill getting passed. I could actually see congress see-sawing over this for awhile.
    1. There is very little chance that the Reps actually take control of the leg. this year
    2. Even if event 1 were to happen, there is very little chance of getting by a Dem fillibuster or Presidential veto
    3. If were to be overturned, its a dead issue for years even when the Dems take power again.
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    Re: Boehner: GOP Will Repeal Health Care Law

    if the gop comes even close in november, dems will NOT filibuster the removal of that mendacious mandate on individuals

    centrist dems will certainly come our way to eliminate so evil an exigency

    the prez might veto, he's capable

    if so, he would only further diminish

    the provision is simply too unpopular, poisonous, pernicious

    the gop will proceed piecemeal, being pros

    we will be praised

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