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Capitol Briefing - Senate votes to keep Medicare cuts
Op-Ed Contributor - The Real Arithmetic of Health Care Reform - NYTimes.comON Thursday, the Congressional Budget Office reported that, if enacted, the latest health care reform legislation would, over the next 10 years, cost about $950 billion, but because it would raise some revenues and lower some costs, it would also lower federal deficits by $138 billion. In other words, a bill that would set up two new entitlement spending programs — health insurance subsidies and long-term health care benefits — would actually improve the nation’s bottom line.
Could this really be true? How can the budget office give a green light to a bill that commits the federal government to spending nearly $1 trillion more over the next 10 years?
The answer, unfortunately, is that the budget office is required to take written legislation at face value and not second-guess the plausibility of what it is handed. So fantasy in, fantasy out.
The programs should be funded for those who have paid into them, then deconstructed.
Are we free people, or wards of the state?
Can we secure our own futures and assist others, or do we need the government to destroy the fabric of society by confiscating our funds and telling us how to manage our lives?
The programs serve their purpose perfectly. To buy votes.
I AM DEPLORABLE.
NEVER CRIMINAL HILLARY (S-NY)
Yeah, because the GOP never tried to fix SS. That time they tried and were made out as a bunch of evil granny-killers and in the end failed totally never happened. And it certainly didn't happen under Bush, that fiscal mega-liberal.Tell me how those three things I mentioned will go down with voters. And then tell me how easy it will be to repeal when the elderly, uninsured and everyone 24-26 abandons the GOP. You know why the GOP hasn't seriously gone after social security and medicare? Because of the elderly. Fixing those two would put us back on the path to solvency rather then bull**** talk about immaterial pork. Tiny percentage jumps in either do far more damage then pork spending does. If the GOP actually gave a **** about fiscal conservatism, they'd fix SS and MC. But they won't because it will cost them huge number of votes.
Also: you never answered my question, which is why the debate will suddenly change and people will be so much more "informed" the next time around. Don't bother though, I don't really expect you to give a real answer at this point.
Odd place to cut off my quote. The point was that they may want to fix it, but that concern is vastly overshadowed by the rest of the bill. Hence the elderly oppose it by much larger margins than other age groups. And if after a year of debate they still don't know about the donut being closed now (unlikely, if they're as concerned about it as you claim), there's no reason why they'll suddenly realize it later and change their minds.Doesn't care? Do you know what one of the largest complaints about Medicare that the elderly had was? You just argued that arguably the biggest gripe of the largest voting blocs in the country had suddenly doesn't care about it. Try think about that for a moment will ya? It's like saying that all the pro-weed people suddenly stop caring about weed.