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    Re: Arizona lawmakers modify immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    My emphasis.

    Seems like an improvement; but, is it enough?
    But did they take out the death panels that I just made up but now 100% know is the purpose of the bill?

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers modify immigration law

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    Why don't we just give everyone in the entire country the "mark of the devil" and be done with it ?
    That's called a "Social Security Number" and it is issued at birth here in the USA. I don't think there will be tattoo's on babies foreheads for a while, but chip implants are just around the corner.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers modify immigration law

    I'm surprised that there was an explicit mention of race contained in the initial draft, or even that they believed it might be remotely acceptable.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers modify immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    All AZ has to do is require proof of legal residency when applying for a DL or State ID card, then require all residents, over the age of 18, to have one, and ask EVERYBODY, when stopped or detained, for their card.

    The same as they do everywhere else. No card? Then there's your reasonable suspicion no matter what color they are.

    But, it matters not. The pro-illegal's would just find something else to whine about.
    Exactly...... new law in Oregon.

    You have to show an SS. card, proof on where you live (utility bill will do), and a long form BC. to get or renew a Driver License.

    If you are not an obvious citizen (BC. shows US. born) you have to show documentation that you are here legally before a license will be issued.

    This law is brand new this year.

    Problem solved. This is the coming trend, the Feds won’t take care of the illegal alien problem so the States will……. Get used to it.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers modify immigration law

    This what the hoopla is all about....

    Changes to the bill language will actually remove the word "solely" from the sentence, "The attorney general or county attorney shall not investigate complaints that are based solely on race, color or national origin."
    As far as I can see, removing the word "solely" weakens the restriction against racial profiling..... but not by much.

    Another change replaces the phrase "lawful contact" with "lawful stop, detention or arrest" to apparently clarify that officers don't need to question a victim or witness about their legal status.
    Notice that the cops are required to check lawful status...... it ain't optional. So no matter what color your skin is, if there is a "lawful stop, detention or arrest", you get checked This is good.

    A third change specifies that police contact over violations for local civil ordinances can trigger questioning on immigration status.

    The law's sponsor, Republican Sen. Russell Pearce, characterized the race and ethnicity changes as clarifications "just to take away the silly arguments and the games, the dishonesty that's been played."

    Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Phoenix, said allowing immigration-status contacts for civil violations such as weed-infested yards or too many occupants in a residence could spur complaints of racial profiling.

    Pearce defended that provision, saying there shouldn't be a restraint on when police act on a reasonable suspicion that somebody is in the country illegally. "It is a lawful contact," Pearce said.
    Arizona lawmakers OK several changes to immigration law - Phoenix Arizona news, breaking news, local news, weather radar, traffic from ABC15 News | ABC15.com

    I don't see where these small changes altered the law one little bit. It never was about racial profiling, but if you libs feel better, I'm pleased as punch.

    If you don‘t feel better? Tough ****.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers modify immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Cochise View Post
    I'm surprised that there was an explicit mention of race contained in the initial draft, or even that they believed it might be remotely acceptable.
    There wasn't anything in the original bill that could truthfully be construed as the mention of race or racial profiling ..... how do I know this? I read the bill.

    Learn to read and then think for yourself, don't fall for the Lib talking points or MSM propaganda.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers modify immigration law

    The bill use to say that race could not be used "solely" as the basis for the suspicion that someone might be illegal. So, Cochise is correct, the bill not only explicitly mentioned race but explicitly said it could be part of the suspicion. At least that egregious legalization of racial profiling has now been removed.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers modify immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The bill use to say that race could not be used "solely" as the basis for the suspicion that someone might be illegal. So, Cochise is correct, the bill not only explicitly mentioned race but explicitly said it could be part of the suspicion. At least that egregious legalization of racial profiling has now been removed.
    Got it. The old bill said race couldn't be the sole reason to check status, so it explicitly said that race could be used? Do you think about what you post before you post it?
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers modify immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Got it. The old bill said race couldn't be the sole reason to check status, so it explicitly said that race could be used? Do you think about what you post before you post it?
    It would have been better to say that it was an implicit statement. To write that race could not be a "sole" reason is a fairly obvious insinuation that it could be a partial reason. Otherwise, why not initially insert the current language?

    And the damage cannot be undone by changing the language; their intentions are already apparent and were made so at the beginning.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers modify immigration law

    The intention's are to stop all the illegal Mexican aliens crossing their borders. As the law allows.

    You guys can whine and moan all day but that ain't gonna change the FACT that the illegal aliens look and speak like Mexicans. And that, somehow, is whitey's fault? Like I said earlier, I wish terrorists and baby rapers were so easily identified. But, still, that's all whitey's fault. Right. Got it.

    I remember when anyone with a KLOL sticker on their bumper (Houston radio station) was pulled over and searched. In fact, the wrote a book about that called Terror on Highway 59. re: Humpy Parker

    Where was La Raza when they were profiling hippy white kids?

    http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/20...59_reprint.txt
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