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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Sarge! We have another one dodging the argument! Commence rundown with the facts!


    Let me know when you've got the cognitive ability to actually read the law.

    I've already provided it for you.
    Your response has nothing to do with my comment on your strawman.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Yeah and my summary is saying the same thing ...

    But if you wish to avoid discussion, you can always just say so.
    No you're right, I apologize.

    But why would you support teaching that is designed for a particular ethnic group? Why wouldn't it be ethnic history that all people can learn and not written for a group not about it?
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Your response has nothing to do with my comment on your strawman.
    You are taking two separate points and trying to combine them.


    there is a big difference between teaching others about a culture and writing the teachings for one culture.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    No you're right, I apologize.

    But why would you support teaching that is designed for a particular ethnic group? Why wouldn't it be ethnic history that all people can learn and not written for a group not about it?
    I am not necessarily for it or against it, but I fail to see how learning about other cultures would harm the country or the state of Arizona.

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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You are taking two separate points and trying to combine them.

    there is a big difference between teaching others about a culture and writing the teachings for one culture.
    I agree, but I guess I am asking how there can be a legal distinction.

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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Why would that be laughable? If I'm going to do something annoying, you will share in the annoyance.
    Thanks for admitting your goal isn't honest its just to deflect from the point you can't support your claim.

    #1 is irrelevant since you were describing a general quality of the American left-wing, not a specific person in this thread.
    I said far left. And I said far left in this thread and I provided an example. Please stop lying.

    Define far left. Since most liberals espouse opinions that would be labeled 'far left' by conservatives, it should still be relatively common. Common enough for you to find ten people.
    Calling this bill racist is far left as my example and argument showed.

    BTW, this is the 5th time you've ducked admitting the fact you couldn't support your accusation with a quote of mine.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I am not necessarily for it or against it, but I fail to see how learning about other cultures would harm the country or the state of Arizona.
    Again it does not say learning about. It says written for.

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I agree, but I guess I am asking how there can be a legal distinction.
    La Reconquista and LA Raza wrote historical documentation that was written to demonize other races and put a claim on the land specifically for their people.

    That would be written for.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Just point out that Gill also failed at his own rules. He said the most racist people he has known were northerners AND that they were from Chicago.

    But according to his own map, they are Midwesterners, not northerners.

    Which means that, apparently, I'm the only one who ever actually took a geography class.
    You are of course correct..... a thousand apologies.

    To a true southerner, the south is the old confederacy and the north is all of the yankee states.

    The rest of the states don't really matter.

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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    La Reconquista and LA Raza wrote historical documentation that was written to demonize other races and put a claim on the land specifically for their people.

    That would be written for.
    I have no problem with the law affecting those groups, much like I would have no law affecting the KKK in a similar fashion.

    This has a good possibility of affecting a kind hearted and well intentioned professor of Black studies though. the fact is, that black people are going to be disproportionally interested in this guy's class and a good case can be made that it was written for black people because it can easily be assumed that they will be the target audience. What is the legal distinction that protects the good guy but stops the bad guy?

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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Thanks for admitting your goal isn't honest its just to deflect from the point you can't support your claim.
    I didn't admit that. I said I'm holding you to the same standard you are holding me, except you did it first, so the burden on you is more pressing.

    I said far left. And I said far left in this thread and I provided an example. Please stop lying.
    What is far left? Was health care reform far left? Was electing Obama, the alleged "most liberal Senator in the Senate," far left? Almost every liberal here supported those things. Like I said, it should be common. If it isn't common, then it can't be a left-wing tactic, far or otherwise.
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