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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    For your continuing education....and my last word on the subject.



    Do you actually live in the U.S. ????????
    Jesus Christ, it's on our southern border. I understand your need to grasp at any points you can but, really... According to your map there are NO states in the north, south or east. While you are technically correct, so am I. States are commonly referred to as being in the north and south.
    *For the anal retentive, that would be north "or" south.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Are you intentionally misreading the law?


    The new bill would make it illegal for a school district to teach any courses that promote the overthrow of the U.S. government, promote resentment of a particular race or class of people, are designed primarily for students of a particular ethnic group or "advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals."
    I agree with Ikari that schools should teach courses that promote the overthrow of the government. Race\ethnic based classes and racist classes that teach race resentment and solidarity should be banned.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Yeah, they teach it correctly where I'm from. I'm not sure what they do where you come from, though.

    First, if we make racism in Alabama = X and racism in Maryland = Y We get:

    Y = 3X

    If X = 1, then Y = 3.

    So if we break it down to racism per year in each location, we get:

    Alabama = 1/3 (or about 0.33 racism units per year)

    Maryland = 3/13 (or about 0.23 racism units per year)

    0.23 < 0.33 so Alabama would be "slightly more racist" as I said.

    Doing the same for Arizona (This time racism in Arizona = X):

    We still have Y = 3X which means that if X = 1, Y = 3

    Racism per year:

    Maryland is still 3/13 or 0.23

    Arizona is 1/25 or .04

    .23/0.04 = 5.75 or as I put it "It would also mean that Arizona would be about 6 times less racist than Maryland."


    More importantly, I was having fun with your made-up numbers.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Your inability to quote me after accusing me of saying something shows you can't support your own claims.
    That's a repetition of what you already said.

    Continuing to lie won't get you out of this. You made the first accusation. Either support it with a quote or retract it.
    This was written by you on the third page.

    Exactly. Its amazing so many liberals in here can't grasp the basic concept and predictably fall back on:

    omg racist! omg bigoted!

    Its far left liberal auto pilot for debating.
    My comment is on the fifth or sixth. So you just lied.

    Now support your accusation. Should be easy. It's our autopilot argument and there have been far more than ten liberal posters on this site in its history.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Jesus Christ, it's on our southern border. I understand your need to grasp at any points you can but, really... According to your map there are NO states in the north, south or east. While you are technically correct, so am I. States are commonly referred to as being in the north and south.
    *For the anal retentive, that would be north "or" south.
    Just point out that Gill also failed at his own rules. He said the most racist people he has known were northerners AND that they were from Chicago.

    But according to his own map, they are Midwesterners, not northerners.

    Which means that, apparently, I'm the only one who ever actually took a geography class.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Just point out that Gill also failed at his own rules. He said the most racist people he has known were northerners AND that they were from Chicago.

    But according to his own map, they are Midwesterners, not northerners.

    Which means that, apparently, I'm the only one who ever actually took a geography class.
    Chicago is south of Canada, you guys are very racist.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Chicago is south of Canada, you guys are very racist.
    Well, I am from Chicago so I must be racist. .
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    That's a repetition of what you already said.
    Because you still refuse to admit you can't provide a quote to support your accusation.

    This was written by you on the third page.
    And not written to you or about you. As I said, you started the accusations between us and again, you can't support your claim and you aren't man enough to admit you can't.

    Pretty pathetic dude.

    My comment is on the fifth or sixth. So you just lied.
    Exactly how did I lie? Care to back that bull**** up?

    Now support your accusation. Should be easy. It's our autopilot argument and there have been far more than ten liberal posters on this site in its history.
    So when you are faced with lying about someone your response instead of taking responsibility you go on the attack? This is laughable.

    Look at what I said.

    Exactly. Its amazing so many liberals in here can't grasp the basic concept and predictably fall back on:

    omg racist! omg bigoted!

    Its far left liberal auto pilot for debating.


    #1 I said liberals in here: ie this thread

    #2 I said far left not all on the left blowing away your pathetic theory

    And in this thread to support my accusation.

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Man, Arizona is just exposing its ignorance and bigotry more and more lately.

    It's backwards laws like this that contribute to people thinking all of the south is backwards. Arizona should vote those imbeciles out of office asap! November should be very interesting.

    See thats how you support your claims.


    Now man up and admit you accused me of something you can't provide a quote for.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Still separating the overall points and cherry picking. Nice.


    Try reading the actual law:

    A school district or charter school in this state shall not include in its program of instruction any courses or classes that either:

    1. Are designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnice group

    2. Advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals.

    It does not prohibit or restrict:
    Courses or classes for native American pupils that are required to comply with federal law.

    2. The grouping of pupils according to academic performance, including capability int he English language that may result in a disparate impact by ethnicity.


    Next time, read the law not a summary of it.

    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/hb2281p.pdf
    Prohibits a school district or charter school from including in its program of instruction any courses or classes that:

    Ř Promote the overthrow of the United States government.

    Ř Promote resentment toward a race or class of people.

    Ř Are designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group.

    Ř Advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals.
    You are aware of course that both of these pretty much the same thing right?
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    So when you are faced with lying about someone your response instead of taking responsibliity you go on the attack? That is laughable.
    Why would that be laughable? If I'm going to do something annoying, you will share in the annoyance.

    #1 I said liberals in here: ie this thread

    #2 I said far left not all on the left blowing away your pathetic theory

    And in this thread to support my accusation.
    #1 is irrelevant since you were describing a general quality of the American left-wing, not a specific person in this thread.

    Define far left. Since most liberals espouse opinions that would be labeled 'far left' by conservatives, it should still be relatively common. Common enough for you to find ten people.
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