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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    3 laws are a ton of laws? Or is it just that those 3 laws have caused a bit of bed wetting in the liberal world?
    These laws are part of the liberal world where the government can solve every problem.

    The fact that some other liberals are freaking out about it doesn't change the fact that these laws all stem from the same misguided liberal mindset that the government can "fix" things.

    But, like I said, it's Arizona's business, not mine. I'm a conservative, so I don't really care about other States passing silly liberal laws. Just my own.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    These laws are part of the liberal world where the government can solve every problem.

    The fact that some other liberals are freaking out about it doesn't change the fact that these laws all stem from the same misguided liberal mindset that the government can "fix" things.

    But, like I said, it's Arizona's business, not mine. I'm a conservative, so I don't really care about other States passing silly liberal laws. Just my own.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I have no problem with the law affecting those groups, much like I would have no law affecting the KKK in a similar fashion.
    Totally agree and I think that was the goal of this law.

    This has a good possibility of affecting a kind hearted and well intentioned professor of Black studies though. the fact is, that black people are going to be disproportionally interested in this guy's class and a good case can be made that it was written for black people because it can easily be assumed that they will be the target audience. What is the legal distinction that protects the good guy but stops the bad guy?
    Its going to come down to interpretation but I think the distinction can be made easily If you are teaching about a culture, what they did in history and their beliefs, no problem. If you teach that they must remain a separate entity from society and demonize other races then there's a problem.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by Cochise View Post

    Sometimes I wonder if Arizona isn't Alabama.
    Ah our Reconquista friend is back. Yes I'm sure you of all people are vehemently against this law. It doesn't allow emphasis of race over nation. Oh well.


    And thanks for the bigoted vision of Alabama. Staying true to form I see.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    They can't be liberal laws....

    They are less than 2000 pages.


    Seriously, though, the problem is that "socially conservative" is all too often confused with politically conservative.

    Many social conservatives are actually political liberals who think the passing laws will "fix" things.

    Federal residency laws towards immigrants are a prime example of liberalism in action.

    The State's themselves should be the only one's to decide residency requirements of immigrants who want to reside in said state. The feds are only empowered with the right to pass uniform laws regarding naturalization, not residency.

    Arizona could pass a law banning all non-citizen immigrants (legal or illegal) from residing in Arizona tomorrow if they wanted to, and I would not have a problem with it (although I would say it was a stupid law). That would be their right.
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    Re: Arizona Legislature Passes Bill Banning Ethnic Studies Programs

    By the way, even though I was born and raised in Chicago, I've got to agree with Gill that this town has sizable amount of overtly racist people in it.

    I would say most of us aren't racist, but there are still way too many racists here.
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