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US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

And, low-n-behold, the damned thing worked. Gee-willikers!...:rofl

They have it in position, but they won't know until Tuesday if it will work. Where do you clowns get your information?
 
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One blowout every 4.75 years? You may want to believe such incidents are as rare as hen's teeth, but the facts say something different.

Again, how many safe wells were drilled during the same period?



No, I don't. Regardless of how they happened, they still happened.

You're wrong, the reasons matter. Find out why they're blowing out, take preventative measures and, wella! we have safer, cleaner drilling. Yes?



Oh boy, here we go. Get out your tin foil hats, gang! :rofl

Do you know why it happened? They lost their mud? Lost circulation? The mud was too light? Gradient pressure caused a collapse in the workstring? Do you even know what any of that means?

The point you, nor anyone else that wasn't on that rig has a clue about what actually happened. Hell, if you worked on a rig, you would still be looking for the keys to the V-door.

This blowout happened to the safest, cleanest, most technologically advanced oil company in the world, who were running a rig that was judged to be the safest in the world, by the government, which had triple redundancies on everything. Sorry, but considering all those facts, I'm not 100% convinced that it was an accident.
 
Right, it's never been used at that depth, but it has been used many times before because this by far not the first blow-out they've dealt with. That was my claim and you just backed it up for me :2wave:

This is a first and they are not sure if it will work at this depth. Your claim is BS.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...buzzes-with-new-ideas-to-stop-leaky-well.html

They sure are doing a lot of scrambling for an event that happens all the time and is no big deal.

"Scientists and engineers working on the project were even considering untried methods such as injecting golf balls and other debris into the blowout preventer to gum it up, he said."
 
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They have it in position, but they won't know until Tuesday if it will work. Where do you clowns get your information?

Right! It's in position. Getting it in position was their chief concern. All that's left to do now, is hook a string to it and start vacc-ing oil.

I know the Libs hate it, but this is going to have a happy ending.
 
This is a first and they are not sure if it will work at this depth. Your claim is BS.

BP?s Oil-Spill ?Hive? Buzzes With New Ideas to Stop Leaky Well - BusinessWeek

They sure are doing a lot of scrambling for an event that happens all the time and is no big deal.

"Scientists and engineers working on the project were even considering untried methods such as injecting golf balls and other debris into the blowout preventer to gum it up, he said."


Do firemen scramble everytime there's a house on fire? Of course they're scrambling. Would you have it any other way?
 
Right! It's in position. Getting it in position was their chief concern. All that's left to do now, is hook a string to it and start vacc-ing oil.

I know the Libs hate it, but this is going to have a happy ending.

Happy ending? This could be the the worst oil spill in history.

I am not a lib, but I actually care about our environment. Why do right wingnuts hate it so much?

There will be no happy ending to this even if they plugged the leak right now.
 
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If true this only proves that the only reason President Obama is making an issue out of this particular spill is because he needs support for banning off-shore drilling.

This particular spill? This may turn out to be the worst US spill in history. It's not Obama that is against offshore drilling. It's the people that live in coastal states. I don't blame them.

"If current estimates for the Deepwater Horizon oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico are correct, the massive spill could eventually dwarf that of Exxon Valdez spill of 1989 -- previously the largest in U.S. history -- by as much as three times. At a rate of 5,000 barrels a day, for an estimated 90 days, well over 20 million gallons of crude could be pumped out onto the Louisiana coastline.
 
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Do firemen scramble everytime there's a house on fire? Of course they're scrambling. Would you have it any other way?

Shouldn't there be safeguards and procedures in place so there is no need to scramble to invent solutions after the disaster? They really don't know if they can stop the leaks or not. Even if successful the dome will only catch 85% of the oil. They will still have a lot of work left.
 
You're wrong, the reasons matter. Find out why they're blowing out, take preventative measures and, wella! we have safer, cleaner drilling. Yes?

I heard the cause of the blow-out was a methane bubble.

What do you suggest? Have the USS Enterprise scan below the ocean floor from orbit?
 
This is a first and they are not sure if it will work at this depth. Your claim is BS.

BP?s Oil-Spill ?Hive? Buzzes With New Ideas to Stop Leaky Well - BusinessWeek

They sure are doing a lot of scrambling for an event that happens all the time and is no big deal.

"Scientists and engineers working on the project were even considering untried methods such as injecting golf balls and other debris into the blowout preventer to gum it up, he said."

I like how you quote some other method other than the one I made a claim about :rofl

If you take a moment to actually read the article you quoted, you will see that the dome is standard procedure and the new untried ideas are in case the dome fails.
 
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This particular spill? This may turn out to be the worst US spill in history. It's not Obama that is against offshore drilling. It's the people that live in coastal states. I don't blame them.

"If current estimates for the Deepwater Horizon oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico are correct, the massive spill could eventually dwarf that of Exxon Valdez spill of 1989 -- previously the largest in U.S. history -- by as much as three times. At a rate of 5,000 barrels a day, for an estimated 90 days, well over 20 million gallons of crude could be pumped out onto the Louisiana coastline.

Right, if the well expends it's entire contents.

Do you really think these GreedyCorporations™ are going to let all of their precious oil get away like that? Your own source described 500 engineers working on this problem 24/7, sending out ready responses while dreaming up new ways to stop a blow-out.

Any word on a ceremony to remember the dead?
 
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Happy ending? This could be the the worst oil spill in history.

I am not a lib, but I actually care about our environment. Why do right wingnuts hate it so much?

There will be no happy ending to this even if they plugged the leak right now.


Not even close! Stop being so dramatic. This spill--so far--is only a third of what the Valdeze released. The Ixtoc 1 released 140 million gallons in 1979 and the world, much less life on the gulf cost didn't cease to exist.

Oil is organic, the gulf seeps out 5,000 barrels a day. Natural seepage accounts for 60% of the world's crude oil pollution.
 
Shouldn't there be safeguards and procedures in place so there is no need to scramble to invent solutions after the disaster?

Sure there should be. There was legislation passed that detailed the government's response in this exact scenario. How'd that go?

They really don't know if they can stop the leaks or not. Even if successful the dome will only catch 85% of the oil. They will still have a lot of work left.

No, they can stop the leak. That's not a question. They just might not be able to snap their fingers and stop the leak, like you insist they should.
 
Right, if the well expends it's entire contents.

Do you really think these GreedyCorporations™ are going to let all of their precious oil get away like that? Your own source described 500 engineers working on this problem 24/7, sending out ready responses while dreaming up new ways to stop a blow-out.

Any word on a ceremony to remember the dead?


Not that I've heard. But what the hell? They were all just greedy oilmen and probably didn't vote Democrat, anyway.
 
Not even close! Stop being so dramatic. This spill--so far--is only a third of what the Valdeze released. The Ixtoc 1 released 140 million gallons in 1979 and the world, much less life on the gulf cost didn't cease to exist.

Oil is organic, the gulf seeps out 5,000 barrels a day. Natural seepage accounts for 60% of the world's crude oil pollution.

It's hard to accuse Man of abuse when we stick the tip in since Mother Earth is fisting herself in the ass.
 
Sure there should be. There was legislation passed that detailed the government's response in this exact scenario. How'd that go?



No, they can stop the leak. That's not a question. They just might not be able to snap their fingers and stop the leak, like you insist they should.

So the nanny state government is expected to clean up messes made by the oil companies? It's funny how you expect the government to do everything.
 
Not even close! Stop being so dramatic. This spill--so far--is only a third of what the Valdeze released. .

A third? Already? Yeah, it's no big deal.:roll:
 
Oil is organic, the gulf seeps out 5,000 barrels a day. Natural seepage accounts for 60% of the world's crude oil pollution.

And man is responsible for the rest? Good job man.
 
So the nanny state government is expected to clean up messes made by the oil companies? It's funny how you expect the government to do everything.

I find it funny how you seem to think it's rediculous to expect the government to deploy it's nearly endless resources in a situation like this. You don't have a problem with the government bailing out the fat-cat bankers to the tune of billions and spending a trillion dollars on turtle tunnels and deer underpasses, yet they should sit back on their laurels now, because, "it's BP's fault"? That's brilliant!!
 
A third? Already? Yeah, it's no big deal.:roll:
Iran with nuks is a big deal. This lil spill, being less than what the earth spills itself, is not a big deal.
 
And man is responsible for the rest? Good job man.

Actually, drilling only accounts for 1%. Seems to me that the treehuggers have bigger things to worry about.
 
A third? Already? Yeah, it's no big deal.:roll:

Whatta-ya-mean, "already"? You do know that this well has been leaking for 3 weeks. Right?

The Exxon Valdeze released 10 million gallons in a couple of days.
 
Whatta-ya-mean, "already"? You do know that this well has been leaking for 3 weeks. Right?

The Exxon Valdeze released 10 million gallons in a couple of days.

You do know difference between the two events, don't you? If not, the Exxon Valdez was an oil tanker that ran aground and damaged it's hull releasing oil. The current spill is mother nature forcing oil into the gulf under pressure.
BP is still trying to stop the leak spewing more than 200,000 gallons of oil a day. It won't take much longer to surpass the Exxon Valdez disaster. Some experts believe the estimates are low and it already has.
 
You do know difference between the two events, don't you? If not, the Exxon Valdez was an oil tanker that ran aground and damaged it's hull releasing oil. The current spill is mother nature forcing oil into the gulf under pressure.
BP is still trying to stop the leak spewing more than 200,000 gallons of oil a day. It won't take much longer to surpass the Exxon Valdez disaster. Some experts believe the estimates are low and it already has.

It's still a far cry from being, "the worst oil spill disaster in history".
 
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