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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    It occurs to me that this explosion may have occurred even if there were no lax inspections, faulty parts, etc.

    The explosion was not the result of the faulty BOP. By the time anyone knew there was a problem which could cause an explosion on the deck, the BOP would be of no use as the methane would have already passed it.

    After the explosion the BOP should have deployed to prevent the spill, but the BOP couldn't have prevented the methane bubble from traveling up the pipe. Someone would have had to know the methane was there, have their hand on the BOP control and deploy the BOP, closing the pipe at the sea floor before any methane traveled up. Likewise, the various safeties of the machines on deck were not designed to handle that volume or pressure of methane.

    If the BOP deployed flawlessly, the rig would have still exploded and sank, only now we wouldn't have a spill.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It occurs to me that this explosion may have occurred even if there were no lax inspections, faulty parts, etc.

    The explosion was not the result of the faulty BOP. By the time anyone knew there was a problem which could cause an explosion on the deck, the BOP would be of no use as the methane would have already passed it.

    After the explosion the BOP should have deployed to prevent the spill, but the BOP couldn't have prevented the methane bubble from traveling up the pipe. Someone would have had to know the methane was there, have their hand on the BOP control and deploy the BOP, closing the pipe at the sea floor before any methane traveled up.

    If the BOP deployed flawlessly, the rig would have still exploded and sank, only now we wouldn't have a spill.
    That still doesn't explain the fire...

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    That still doesn't explain the fire...

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    Methane is combustible as a gas, at 1 atmosphere, at around 5-15% concentration. I imagine these conditions only took a few second to achieve once the methane began bursting through pipes and seals on the deck.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Methane is combustible as a gas, at 1 atmosphere, at around 5-15% concentration. I imagine these conditions only took a few second to achieve once the methane began bursting through pipes and seals on the deck.
    Are you saying it ignites by itself, doesn't need a catalyst?

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It occurs to me that this explosion may have occurred even if there were no lax inspections, faulty parts, etc.
    Wrong.

    The explosion was not the result of the faulty BOP.
    Wrong.

    By the time anyone knew there was a problem which could cause an explosion on the deck, the BOP would be of no use as the methane would have already passed it.
    Wrong.

    After the explosion the BOP should have deployed to prevent the spill, but the BOP couldn't have prevented the methane bubble from traveling up the pipe.
    You're really just winging it here, aren't you

    BP knew the BOP was damaged weeks before the explosion. A worker accidentally damaged it. And BP knew it!

    Someone would have had to know the methane was there,
    Of course they knew explosive gases were they. They almost always are. That's why they have very specific safety tests and steps to perform during the drilling process, when they test the BOP and when they're cementing those plugs.

    have their hand on the BOP control and deploy the BOP, closing the pipe at the sea floor before any methane traveled up. Likewise, the various safeties of the machines on deck were not designed to handle that volume or pressure of methane.

    If the BOP deployed flawlessly, the rig would have still exploded and sank, only now we wouldn't have a spill.
    Where DO you get this stuff?

    We now know that BP caused the explosion because of their hurry to skip safety steps and ignore known damages to the BOP all in the name of making more money faster!.

    For the intellectually curious, here's an eye witness report on BOP's guilt in being negligent and actually causing this fatal explosion.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Are you saying it ignites by itself, doesn't need a catalyst?

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    I'm saying that a large cloud of methane pouring all over the deck would have found a catalyst. It could have been anything from the motor running the turn table, electro-static shock from a control panel....anything.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    BP knew the BOP was damaged weeks before the explosion. A worker accidentally damaged it.
    Please describe how a BOP stack automatically detects a problem and makes the decision to deploy.
    Last edited by Jerry; 05-19-10 at 09:01 PM.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Please describe how the BOP automatically detects a problem and makes the decision to deploy.
    I see you headed my warning for that link.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    I see you headed my warning for that link.
    So you have no idea how a working BOP prevents gas from entering the well bore?

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Yeah, I know.
    Who needs Florida, anyway.
    You mean Alaska and Virginia....no drilling near Florida was halted.

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