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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    I am as about as independent as one can get. I am a fiscally conservative, gun owning, socially liberal, environmentalist. I have voted republican as much as democrat.

    Independents have a variety of views. That's what make us independents.
    Pft, everyone has a variety of views. Only the kook fringe adhere to any sort of litmus test. You're not as unique as you think you are.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

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    Pft, everyone has a variety of views. Only the kook fringe adhere to any sort of litmus test. You're not as unique as you think you are.
    Compared to the right wingers here I am. I have never seen such a bunch of lock-steppers. They all take exactly the same stance on every issue.
    "This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."" GWB

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Compared to the right wingers here I am. I have never seen such a bunch of lock-steppers. They all take exactly the same stance on every issue.
    American, what's your position on gay-marriage?

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

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    American, what's your position on gay-marriage?
    I'm sure he supports it.
    Is gay marriage a left wing thing or a freedom thing?
    Last edited by USA_1; 05-14-10 at 08:46 PM.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

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    American, what's your position on gay-marriage?
    I have mixed feelings about it. Personally I don't like placing it on the same level as hetero marriage which is typically sanctified in a religious ceremony. However, I also cannot deny that liberties are not meant to extend to only some citizens. My religious mind is against it, but my belief in the Constitution means it should be allowed. What I hate the most is gay extremists trying to bring their cause into our schools to our children. That's where I draw the line.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Compared to the right wingers here I am. I have never seen such a bunch of lock-steppers. They all take exactly the same stance on every issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    American, what's your position on gay-marriage?
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    I have mixed feelings about it. Personally I don't like placing it on the same level as hetero marriage which is typically sanctified in a religious ceremony. However, I also cannot deny that liberties are not meant to extend to only some citizens. My religious mind is against it, but my belief in the Constitution means it should be allowed. What I hate the most is gay extremists trying to bring their cause into our schools to our children. That's where I draw the line.
    I've always argued that 'marriage should be given to anyone who meets the criteria, and only to those who meet the criteria. They can be straight, gay, closly related, arranged...it's all good, imo.

    Not every hetero should marry and not every gay couple should marry. I can't support Gay-Marriage™ per-se because I don't think all gay couples are couples who should otherwise marry; but I DO support gays who are raising children to have "marriage". Neither do I support "hetero-marriage" for the same reason. . IMO claiming that they, as a whole identity group, should marry is making broad generalization with a mile wide brush.

    IMO the common denominator is a couples intent to serve the purpose of marriage, not what identity group they belong to. If you want to serve the institution, you're in, if not, GTFO.


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    The purpose of this tangent was to demonstrate that Conservatives do not walk in lock-step, and that you really can't make an accurate judgment about political groups per-se based off of the content of the single topic of this one thread.

    American and agree on this issue, but that doesn't mean we agree on every issue as you claim.

    So, ok, you need to go hate on some right-winGers, whatever. Let's just be clear that you aren't accomplishing anything in this thread by doing so.
    Last edited by Jerry; 05-16-10 at 06:53 PM.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    I'm sure he supports it.
    Is gay marriage a left wing thing or a freedom thing?
    If you aren't serving the purpose of marriage, you don't deserve **** from marriage. If you just want some legal buffs for you hubby, cool, we can set that up, no problem...but that's not a marriage. That's you hanging out with your lover, not raising a family.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If you aren't serving the purpose of marriage, you don't deserve **** from marriage. If you just want some legal buffs for you hubby, cool, we can set that up, no problem...but that's not a marriage. That's you hanging out with your lover, not raising a family.
    Marriage has nothing to do with raising a family.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Marriage has nothing to do with raising a family.
    Other than the fact that raising a family is the purpose of marriage, sure.

    Just like how a funeral is always about marking the end of life and language is always about communication, socializing children is the purpose of creating marital ties no matter where you look on the globe, any society, at any point in history. "Cultural Universal", you should Google it.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Other than the fact that raising a family is the purpose of marriage, sure.
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    You are kidding, right?
    "This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."" GWB

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