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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I trust the oil companies to keep things running smooth, before I would trust the government. BP is going to lose billions because of this spill. It only stands to reason that the folks with the most to lose, are the folks that are going to work the hardest to prevent this type of accident. But, at the end of the day, no matter who is gaurding the hend house, accidents happen.
    If the cost in damages is estimated to be less than the cost of the additional safety measures and procedures, retrofits, etc., then they would go ahead without any need to protect against such accidents as they are cost ineffective. Industry does this all the time, if they are competent and not legally restricted from doing so. In some cases, it's just the opposite. But in no case, is it strictly in their best interest to prevent accidents, as you believe.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    If the cost in damages is estimated to be less than the cost of the additional safety measures and procedures, retrofits, etc., then they would go ahead without any need to protect against such accidents as they are cost ineffective. Industry does this all the time, if they are competent and not legally restricted from doing so. In some cases, it's just the opposite. But in no case, is it strictly in their best interest to prevent accidents, as you believe.
    When I was at the Lockheed Skunk Works, I had two plaques in my desk. One said "Plan Ahead," the other said "Adapt Or Die". Both apply here, and probably to every successful business.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    It just occurred to me that at some point the well will lose pressure long before all of it's contents are spilled; this is why rigs have to inject steam or mud into a well to get it to produce after a short time.

    This means the '3x worse than Exxon Valdez' doomsday scenario is truly just a scare tactic, because that scenario requires the expulsion of the well's entire contents which the well doesn't have the pressure to do.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It just occurred to me that at some point the well will lose pressure long before all of it's contents are spilled; this is why rigs have to inject steam or mud into a well to get it to produce after a short time.

    This means the '3x worse than Exxon Valdez' doomsday scenario is truly just a scare tactic, because that scenario requires the expulsion of the well's entire contents which the well doesn't have the pressure to do.
    That's amazing. Your day dream proves that the idea that this could be worse than the Valdez is just a "scare tactic". Wow. You don't know how much oil is still down there or how long it can continue spewing yet, you think your "realization" is proof of anything. Now, if you'll just convince that hole in the bottom of the ocean of that.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    That's amazing. Your day dream proves that the idea that this could be worse than the Valdez is just a "scare tactic". Wow. You don't know how much oil is still down there or how long it can continue spewing yet, you think your "realization" is proof of anything. Now, if you'll just convince that hole in the bottom of the ocean of that.
    I'll take that as a "no I have nothing to contribute to this discussion" then.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Predictable. Great way for The Obama to get back in the good graces of the green weenie lobby. I bet Chavez and King Abdullah are laughing their asses off right now ...
    They are. But only because we still have not found alternative energy sources.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'll take that as a "no I have nothing to contribute to this discussion" then.
    Sure I did. I clarified your day dream.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'll take that as a "no I have nothing to contribute to this discussion" then.




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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Don't have to blow it up, just thread the broken pipe and screw on a standard shut-off valve. Divers have worked that deep before, so why not now?

    I have difficulty visualizing what really happened down there, how they could use that oversize out house to seal off the oil, and how deep they have to go down to find an undamaged pipe section.

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