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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, why absorb more costs, in a piss poor economy, with all manner a new taxes coming down the pipe, if we don't have to?
    We shouldn't. We should support off-shore drilling and support keeping what we drill...or at least increase our terrifs, thus the statement be true that:

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    58% Still Support Off Shore Drilling.

    a number that will only go up with the price of gasoline.
    I don't think we should tolerate what we don't have to, but we went and put a liberal in office, so now we're going to have to ride out some damaging policies until we can get a Conservative administration in there to clean this crap up.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    We shouldn't. We should support off-shore drilling and support keeping what we drill...or at least increase our terrifs, thus the statement be true that:



    I don't think we should tolerate what we don't have to, but we went and put a liberal in office, so now we're going to have to ride out some damaging policies until we can get a Conservative administration in there to clean this crap up.
    Not to defend these yahoo's running the show now but your alternative solution to put the foxes back into the henhouse is worthy of some debate to say the least.

    We have to realize that the guys calling the shots in the oil industry are entrenched and are NOT from the same cut, as the guys at these Obama Washington galas, and those oil guys are the guys who screwed this up.

    Just sayin'. To be fair and all.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Not to defend these yahoo's running the show now but your alternative solution to put the foxes back into the henhouse is worthy of some debate to say the least.

    We have to realize that the guys calling the shots in the oil industry are entrenched and are NOT from the same cut, as the guys at these Obama Washington galas, and those oil guys are the guys who screwed this up.

    Just sayin'. To be fair and all.

    I trust the oil companies to keep things running smooth, before I would trust the government. BP is going to lose billions because of this spill. It only stands to reason that the folks with the most to lose, are the folks that are going to work the hardest to prevent this type of accident. But, at the end of the day, no matter who is gaurding the hend house, accidents happen.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    We shouldn't. We should support off-shore drilling and support keeping what we drill...or at least increase our terrifs, thus the statement be true that:



    I don't think we should tolerate what we don't have to, but we went and put a liberal in office, so now we're going to have to ride out some damaging policies until we can get a Conservative administration in there to clean this crap up.
    Oh, because the Bush administration didn't cause any damage to our nation at all.

    I'll give you Obama sucking if you'll give me that what he was trying to do was clean up Bush's mess and may not have been up to the job.

    Sorry, but I still don't trust that the Republicans who caused this mess have done anything to change their ways.

    It's only going to get worse again until we as an electorate show that we can surprise politicians.

    I'm more than glad to give Republicans control of Congress in 2010. But the way I'd like to see it done is by EVERY district flipping. If the everyday Republicans and Democrats could hold their noses and completely flip their votes, every politician would know that we're no longer behold to party.

    This would force them to stop spouting the same stupidity and actually govern. I know it's hard for you to admit (and that, too, is a major part of why our nation's politics sucks so much), but good ideas come from both sides of the aisle; and the two parties should be there to temper each other's worst instincts. Instead, all we get are each of the parties' worst instincts.

    Intractability is killing us. Ohh, Utahans are so proud of themselves for kicking Bennett out. Surprise. BFD. They're just sending someone new in who isn't going to be able to do damn thing. They didn't change anything. Same party; same people. They're patting themselves on the back; but they didn't do a damn thing. Hoo-freakin'-ray.

    Even if Republicans take over (and it was only four years ago that they controlled everything); there's simply going to be half the nation pissed off at them and it will simply get overturned again in a few years.

    Until we actually prove to them that we can surprise them, they're not going to change.

    Additionally, the same people who think government is killing them (and if they do turn over the House and the Senate, they're actually proving that government is "tyrannical" to be utterly untrue) are thrilled to let giant corporations kill them. Thus, the hatred for government not doing much about the spill; but people being totally okay with BP.

    It's moronic to blame the government for this and still shop at BP. But people here are doing it.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I trust the oil companies to keep things running smooth, before I would trust the government. BP is going to lose billions because of this spill. It only stands to reason that the folks with the most to lose, are the folks that are going to work the hardest to prevent this type of accident. But, at the end of the day, no matter who is gaurding the hend house, accidents happen.
    And you just proved the point I made in my last post.

    Go buy your BP gas and cheer them on. Never mind the fact that you're little angry party is about to change the government a little bit. But nothing is going to change the oil industry as long as people like you say you trust them as they continue to spill millions of barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico.

    God Bless the Oil Companies of the World. They're just there to help us. But, damn people who run for office. Cause they just want my money!

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land - Times Online

    I strongly support off-shore drilling, but I think this is a good idea. If we are going to do it, we should do it as safely as possible.
    Since our limited fate depends on oil for dozens of different products, including gas, we really have no choice, but we should make preparations for the next pipe break.

    Red Adaire knew how to cap pipe breaks by threading a new valve on the stump, so why can't we do the same thing under water?

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Not so sure how much know-how Red or even Boots and Coots has with capping a well 5000 feet below the surface of the ocean. Can't hardly blow it up. Hellcats are useless.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Oh, because the Bush administration didn't cause any damage to our nation at all.
    No no, I said "Conservative". We haven't had a Conservative in office since Reagan. Bush belongs to you.

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    I'll give you Obama sucking if you'll give me that what he was trying to do was clean up Bush's mess and may not have been up to the job.
    A liberal democrat cleaning up after a liberal republican is still a liberal compounding a liberal's mess.

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Sorry, but I still don't trust that the Republicans who caused this mess have done anything to change their ways.
    Neither do I, which is why I didn't say "Republican". I said "Conservative", and I would support a Conservative Democrat over Obama in the next election.

    It's only going to get worse again until we as an electorate show that we can surprise politicians.

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    I'm more than glad to give Republicans control of Congress in 2010. But the way I'd like to see it done is by EVERY district flipping. If the everyday Republicans and Democrats could hold their noses and completely flip their votes, every politician would know that we're no longer behold to party.
    It won't matter if Republicans get Congress if they're all liberals.


    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    This would force them to stop spouting the same stupidity and actually govern. I know it's hard for you to admit (and that, too, is a major part of why our nation's politics sucks so much), but good ideas come from both sides of the aisle; and the two parties should be there to temper each other's worst instincts. Instead, all we get are each of the parties' worst instincts.

    Intractability is killing us. Ohh, Utahans are so proud of themselves for kicking Bennett out. Surprise. BFD. They're just sending someone new in who isn't going to be able to do damn thing. They didn't change anything. Same party; same people. They're patting themselves on the back; but they didn't do a damn thing. Hoo-freakin'-ray.

    Even if Republicans take over (and it was only four years ago that they controlled everything); there's simply going to be half the nation pissed off at them and it will simply get overturned again in a few years.

    Until we actually prove to them that we can surprise them, they're not going to change.

    Additionally, the same people who think government is killing them (and if they do turn over the House and the Senate, they're actually proving that government is "tyrannical" to be utterly untrue) are thrilled to let giant corporations kill them. Thus, the hatred for government not doing much about the spill; but people being totally okay with BP.

    It's moronic to blame the government for this and still shop at BP. But people here are doing it.
    Speaking just for myself, the reason I'm fairly relaxed over theis spill is 2 fold:

    1. Exxon Valdez was caused by human error. It could have been prevented but someone ****ed up, big. The Deepwater Horizon was not a human error, it was one unusually hugmungis (technical term) methane bubble modern technology couldn't have foreseen. If it weren't for the sheer size of the bubble this would have been just another blow-out, the rig would not have blown up and sank, they would have capped it off and life would go on without you or I being any wiser.

    2. Once the Exxon Valdez's hull was cracked open, there was no stopping it's contents from spilling. There was no re-closing the hull, no opening the hull in another location and pumping in a sealant, no dome to cover the breach and sifin away 85% of the oil. This well can still be brought under control with minimal damage to the local ecology.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Not so sure how much know-how Red or even Boots and Coots has with capping a well 5000 feet below the surface of the ocean. Can't hardly blow it up. Hellcats are useless.
    It's this easy:



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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Not to defend these yahoo's running the show now but your alternative solution to put the foxes back into the henhouse is worthy of some debate to say the least.

    We have to realize that the guys calling the shots in the oil industry are entrenched and are NOT from the same cut, as the guys at these Obama Washington galas, and those oil guys are the guys who screwed this up.

    Just sayin'. To be fair and all.
    I was going to have a partisan fight, and I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for your meddling, Capt'n A.

    Damn you capt'n!! You saved the day again!! DAAAMMMN YYYOOOOOUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuu.........!!!!

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