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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's still a far cry from being, "the worst oil spill disaster in history".
    Not a far cry at all. If they can't seal the leak in a few short weeks it will be the worst US spill in history. You see this is an ongoing thing and it's going to effect a huge area..
    And it does effect me for I have been searching for retirement property on the Florida Gulf coast. This spill has the potential to ruin more shoreline, fisheries and wildlife than the Exxon Valdez. So in those terms it will be worse. It's not about quantity of the spill, but the damage it causes.

    http://www.dailytech.com/Gulf+Oil+Sp...ticle18273.htm
    The spill is the worst oil disaster in the gulf since the blowout and oil spill of the Ixtoc I in 1979. It is estimated that within 50 days it will pass the worst oil spill in U.S. history — the 11 million gallons that leaked from the grounded tanker Exxon Valdez in Alaska's Prince William Sound in 1989. And the relief valve may not be finished for as long 90 days -- roughly three months.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

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    Not a far cry at all. If they can't seal the leak in a few short weeks it will be the worst US spill in history. You see this is an ongoing thing and it's going to effect a huge area..
    And it does effect me for I have been searching for retirement property on the Florida Gulf coast. This spill has the potential to ruin more shoreline, fisheries and wildlife than the Exxon Valdez. So in those terms it will be worse. It's not about quantity of the spill, but the damage it causes.

    DailyTech - Gulf Oil Spill Likely to be Worst Spill in U.S. History, Raises Call For Nuclear
    The spill is the worst oil disaster in the gulf since the blowout and oil spill of the Ixtoc I in 1979. It is estimated that within 50 days it will pass the worst oil spill in U.S. history — the 11 million gallons that leaked from the grounded tanker Exxon Valdez in Alaska's Prince William Sound in 1989. And the relief valve may not be finished for as long 90 days -- roughly three months.


    Still 8 million gallons to go. With a little luck, it'll be cranked off by dark tomorrow, much to your disappointment, I'm sure. Won't be anymore drama for you to exploit.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Not a far cry at all. If they can't seal the leak in a few short weeks it will be the worst US spill in history. You see this is an ongoing thing and it's going to effect a huge area..
    And it does effect me for I have been searching for retirement property on the Florida Gulf coast. This spill has the potential to ruin more shoreline, fisheries and wildlife than the Exxon Valdez. So in those terms it will be worse. It's not about quantity of the spill, but the damage it causes.

    DailyTech - Gulf Oil Spill Likely to be Worst Spill in U.S. History, Raises Call For Nuclear
    The spill is the worst oil disaster in the gulf since the blowout and oil spill of the Ixtoc I in 1979. It is estimated that within 50 days it will pass the worst oil spill in U.S. history — the 11 million gallons that leaked from the grounded tanker Exxon Valdez in Alaska's Prince William Sound in 1989. And the relief valve may not be finished for as long 90 days -- roughly three months.
    BTW, it's a relief well not a relief valve. I hate when media types start acting like they actually know something.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    BTW, it's a relief well not a relief valve. I hate when media types start acting like they actually know something.
    I know what it is. It still doesn't change that it may take 90 days to complete. The attempt last night didn't work by the way. It's too cold down there.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/08...nside-oil-box/

    GULF OF MEXICO -- The relief well has reached 8,788 feet. They are currently cementing the third of seven casings on the relief well, which is the best hope for stopping the oil spill completely. The well needs to reach a depth of 18,000 feet to cut off the flow of oil into the Gulf of Mexico.

    BP to Drill Second Relief Well -- British Petroleum intends to drill two wells designed to intersect the original wellbore above the oil reservoir. This will allow heavy fluid to be pumped into the well which will stop the flow of oil from the reservoir. Cement will then be pumped down to permanently seal the well.

    BP needs to cement 7 casings into place before the relief well can intersect with the main drill pipe which is pouring approximately 5,000 barrels of oil per day into the ocean. They have completed 3 casings, with 4 remaining. They have reached a drill depth of just below 10,000 feet, with another 8,000 feet remaining. At about 12,000 feet they will begin angling toward the center of the damaged oil pipe.

    BP has estimated that the project will require 90 days to complete the first relief well.

    Current Progress: 28" Casing String Set and Cemented in Place, Depth Reached: 8,788' May 7th, Currently Running 22" Casing - 12:00 May 7th.

    This will be the worst evironmental disaster in US history. Even though some seem to be in denial. Drill baby drill.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    I know what it is. It still doesn't change that it may take 90 days to complete. The attempt last night didn't work by the way. It's too cold down there.
    FOXNews.com - Ice Crystals Cause Problems Inside Oil Box

    GULF OF MEXICO -- The relief well has reached 8,788 feet. They are currently cementing the third of seven casings on the relief well, which is the best hope for stopping the oil spill completely. The well needs to reach a depth of 18,000 feet to cut off the flow of oil into the Gulf of Mexico.

    BP to Drill Second Relief Well -- British Petroleum intends to drill two wells designed to intersect the original wellbore above the oil reservoir. This will allow heavy fluid to be pumped into the well which will stop the flow of oil from the reservoir. Cement will then be pumped down to permanently seal the well.

    BP needs to cement 7 casings into place before the relief well can intersect with the main drill pipe which is pouring approximately 5,000 barrels of oil per day into the ocean. They have completed 3 casings, with 4 remaining. They have reached a drill depth of just below 10,000 feet, with another 8,000 feet remaining. At about 12,000 feet they will begin angling toward the center of the damaged oil pipe.

    BP has estimated that the project will require 90 days to complete the first relief well.

    Current Progress: 28" Casing String Set and Cemented in Place, Depth Reached: 8,788' May 7th, Currently Running 22" Casing - 12:00 May 7th.

    And how deep is the existing well?


    This will be the worst evironmental disaster in US history. Even though some seem to be in denial. Drill baby drill.
    At least we can agree on one thing. Let's get this cleaned up and get back to work. I got bills to pay.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

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    At least we can agree on one thing. Let's get this cleaned up and get back to work. I got bills to pay.
    So do the shrimpers and others who make their living from the Gulf waters.

    Gulf oil spill: Southwest Florida's shrimp industry to be ‘devastated’ | news-press.com | The News-Press

    That’s the situation Southwest Florida’s commercial shrimpers found themselves in Monday as an oil slick spread out into the Gulf of Mexico — possibly headed this way.

    But even if it doesn’t make it here, there are few good options because this is the time of year when they follow the shrimp north along the Gulf coast and ultimately to Texas.

    That won’t happen this year, said Henry Gore, 49, of Fort Myers Beach, a fishing captain for 20 years.

    “We start going over in a few weeks and start fishing in Louisiana,” he said.

    This year, Gore said, “I’m probably going to go right on out here off Fort Myers one more time, or maybe south. I’m scared to go north right now.”

    After that the shrimping on this side of the Gulf will have largely petered out and the choices become harder even if the oil doesn’t make it this far, he said.

    Local boats could be forced to stay near home even as boats from elsewhere pour in to avoid the pollution to the west, Gore said. “That’s more boats catching less shrimp.”

    Shrimping is big business in Florida — the state’s commercial fishermen caught 13.8 million pounds worth $2.33 a pound for a total of $28.4 million in 2008, according to the state Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services.

    On the San Carlos Island docks, where most local shrimpers have their home port, everything appeared normal Monday as bags of shrimp were unloaded into packing houses and fishermen worked on their boats and nets.

    But nobody was optimistic about the likely effects on commercial fishing.

    “I think the spill’s like a hurricane,” said David Murray, captain of the shrimp boat Alley Cat. “It's going to devastate many people along the coast. We will be devastated.”

    If the blowout isn’t capped soon, he said, it’s inevitable that Gulf currents eventually will carry the oil to Southwest Florida’s coast.

    “We call it a washing machine,” he said. “It goes around in a circle. Of course it’ll be here.”

    Harry Marx, a semi-retired commercial fisherman, recalled the widespread effects of a major spill off Mexico years ago.

    “It leaked for four months,” he said. “Hotels on the beach had buckets of rags and kerosene” for patrons to wipe the oil off their feet.

    Bob Jones, executive director of the Southeast Fisheries Association in Tallahassee, said it’s likely the entire Gulf will be affected and pointed to fishing grounds closer to the spill that already have been shut down.

    “I think you can look at what has already occurred as a portent of what’s to come,” he said.

    Jones said he hopes the cleanup effort getting under way now will provide at least some financial relief for the unemployed fishermen.

    British Petroleum, the company whose oil drilling caused the spill, “should be responsible for putting all those people on their payroll for cleanup efforts,” he said.

    Still, Jones said, the whole coastal economy — not just commercial fishermen — is in for some hard times.

    “The charter boats, the anglers, all the people who support those industries,” he said. “The size of the thing blows your mind.”
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Right! It's in position. Getting it in position was their chief concern. All that's left to do now, is hook a string to it and start vacc-ing oil.
    Why, sure! Such a simple and easy to accomplish solution should have the problem solved in a snap of the fingers. Easy peasy!

    Oh. Errr. Uh, wait a second...

    The 98-tonne containment box had been the best hope to stem the flow of oil from the well.

    The unprecedented plan was to lower it 5,000 ft (1,500m) by remote-controlled submersibles over the main leak and then funnel the oil by pipe to a waiting tanker on the surface.

    But a build-up of crystallised gas inside the box blocked the exit at the top and the device had to be put aside on the seabed for engineers to ponder their next move. --BBC News
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    I know the Libs hate it, but this is going to have a happy ending.
    Interesting. You're asserting that liberals are pro-ecological/economic disaster.

    It takes either (a) an outrageous and intentional twisting of facts or (b) a completely and blindly partisan mind to make a claim like that. I'll leave it to others to decide for themselves which category you fall into.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

    58% Still Support Off Shore Drilling.



    a number that will only go up with the price of gasoline.

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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

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    58% Still Support Off Shore Drilling.



    a number that will only go up with the price of gasoline.
    And those fools actually believe it will make a difference. We could triple our offshore drilling and it would have zero effect on the price of gasoline.
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    Re: US bans offshore drilling as Deepwater Horizon slick hits land

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    Why, sure! Such a simple and easy to accomplish solution should have the problem solved in a snap of the fingers. Easy peasy!

    Oh. Errr. Uh, wait a second...





    Interesting. You're asserting that liberals are pro-ecological/economic disaster.

    It takes either (a) an outrageous and intentional twisting of facts or (b) a completely and blindly partisan mind to make a claim like that. I'll leave it to others to decide for themselves which category you fall into.

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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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