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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    This just doesn't seem to me like it will make a whole lot of difference. Most parents don't go to a place like McDonald's just to get a toy in a Happy Meal for their kids. They go for their own convenience. So taking away the toy in the Happy Meal doesn't seem to me like it would really make a big difference in what the kid would be eating. I doubt a lot of kids are going to decide (if they even get a choice) to have the salad instead of the Happy Meal when their parents take them to McDs or another fast food place just because the Happy Meal no longer has a toy in it. The Happy Meal is a smaller portion than the normal meals and it is generally cheaper, so parents are most likely going to still get it for their child. Now, those parents who indulge their kids might change their kids' eating habits with this, but most likely, what will happen is those types of parents will still take their kids out to eat where ever they did before, but also stop to pick up a toy for the kid while they're out.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    IDK, maybe a crack pot idea of taxing these fast food behemeths to pay for the external costs associated to consuming their products. You know..... The cost we all will pay in increased taxes and decreased productivity.

    With the procedes from said tax, you implement awareness programs and subsidize fruits, vegtables, etc.... You know; slow flood!

    Welcome to Slow Food Detroit
    ZOMG you didn't just have the thought of taxing a business, did you? That's a hangin offense!!

    We cannot hold corporations responsible for the damages they create because they will all go home and sit on their pile of cash while the economy tanks, then We the People will come crawling back to them with offerings of tax breaks, deregulation and a promise to look the other way next time.

    You need to repent, so head to your local Chamber of Commerce and admit your sin. [/sarcasm]

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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This just doesn't seem to me like it will make a whole lot of difference. Most parents don't go to a place like McDonald's just to get a toy in a Happy Meal for their kids. They go for their own convenience. So taking away the toy in the Happy Meal doesn't seem to me like it would really make a big difference in what the kid would be eating. I doubt a lot of kids are going to decide (if they even get a choice) to have the salad instead of the Happy Meal when their parents take them to McDs or another fast food place just because the Happy Meal no longer has a toy in it. The Happy Meal is a smaller portion than the normal meals and it is generally cheaper, so parents are most likely going to still get it for their child. Now, those parents who indulge their kids might change their kids' eating habits with this, but most likely, what will happen is those types of parents will still take their kids out to eat where ever they did before, but also stop to pick up a toy for the kid while they're out.
    Advertising works. Kids see the advertising and badger their parents and in case you don't have children, they can really get on your last nerve. When you're tired and cranky, sometimes you give in. Some will call it bad parenting, maybe it is, maybe there is a reason for that beyond simply being a "bad parent". Maybe we don't teach people how to be good parents and instead we simply allow any 2 people with genitalia to reproduce without any instruction on child rearing. Like how to cope with these situations without abuse or relinquishing authority.

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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    It's all fun and games until I have to pay for their healthcare. Once I have to pay, I have a say.

    Making it illegal to be morons is fine with me, if I have to directly pay as a result of you being a moron. Don't make me pay for your irresonsible behavior if you want me to get out of your business.

    Everyone knows they ban the toy as both a first step, and because doing more likely wouldn't go anywhere.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Hey, lay off the guy. I'm sure he and his wife are great parents. Everyone's kids whine for things at times.
    I'm just dubious as to a medical condition that has McDonald's as a solution. (to get them to eat). A friend of mine, her son was autistic and she for the longest time claimed he'd only eat Mc'Ds. Finally her son starting get really fat and she found a different more healthy solution.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm just dubious as to a medical condition that has McDonald's as a solution. (to get them to eat). A friend of mine, her son was autistic and she for the longest time claimed he'd only eat Mc'Ds. Finally her son starting get really fat and she found a different more healthy solution.
    As the doctor said "I would prefer he eat healthy, but really, he just needs to eat high calorie food." So I took the advice. His medication harms his appetite and he is frighteningly thin and underweight for his height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Advertising works. Kids see the advertising and badger their parents and in case you don't have children, they can really get on your last nerve. When you're tired and cranky, sometimes you give in. Some will call it bad parenting, maybe it is, maybe there is a reason for that beyond simply being a "bad parent". Maybe we don't teach people how to be good parents and instead we simply allow any 2 people with genitalia to reproduce without any instruction on child rearing. Like how to cope with these situations without abuse or relinquishing authority.
    I have two sons, but they're both under three. Neither of them are old enough to understand that a Happy Meal would come with a toy.

    I realize that sometimes advertising works, but having a toy in the Happy Meal is not going to be a parent's main reason for going to McDs. The most likely reason a parent will go to a fast food place will be because they just don't feel like cooking or it's a convenient place to stop for lunch/dinner while they're out running errands. If their child is with them, then they will get the child something to eat too. Most likely they will get that child a kid's meal, because they're kid sized meals and they're relatively cheap, although a regular combo would give them more food for the dollar.

    If you have anything that could actually prove that not having a toy in the Happy Meal could actually show a significant reduction in parents going to McDs with their children, then you might have a reason for removing the toy. But I don't think that is what is really going on here. I think that some people just felt they needed something to blame for childhood obesity, and they chose to blame fast food restaurants' kids meals.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    This CNBC special premiers May 18th.

    "One nation, overweight"

    News Headlines

    Anyone plan on watching? I think this discussion would go deeper with more information/exposure.

    Obesity is an American epidemic, much like AIDS is an epidemic in Africa.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    No - I don't buy into calling obesity an "epidemic" - it's just widespread gluttony and/or ignorance. The majority of obese-cases are self-inflicted/inflicted by a parent. You cannot breath the air, drink the water, fail to wash your hands and catch obesity.
    It is not spread through contaminated foods or by vermin or insect, either.

    It is not an epidemic.

    Epidemics are diseases and conditions - like Cholera, AIDS, Yellow Fever, the Black Plague, Tuberculosis . . . on and on that list goes.

    Please do not call it an epidemic - even if the # of people who are obese measure up to the # of people who've died of a contagious disease, they are still no where near comparable in any way, fashion or form.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    This CNBC special premiers May 18th.

    "One nation, overweight"

    News Headlines

    Anyone plan on watching? I think this discussion would go deeper with more information/exposure.

    Obesity is an American epidemic, much like AIDS is an epidemic in Africa.





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