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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Unless it's a danger to society. Which obesity is.
    Fat people are a danger to society?

    Only if you don't trust your elevator maintenance.

    They get fat, they die, their problem, not yours.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    I don't think it's the "nanny state" that is the problem but rather the millions of Americans who are unable to make the right choices for a myriad of reasons.
    That "problem" is called "freedom".

    Freedom isn't a problem, it's the cure.

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    The top few are, no time to cook because both parents are working so much,
    Because they have to pay taxes.

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    the food is tastey, it's easy to get, MARKETING WORKS.
    McDonald's is "tasty"?

    Tell me what country you live in, I want to make sure I never go there.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    So, I'd like all you cons to tell us how lazy these millions of Americans are, and don't forget to throw in that, if you can do the wise thing, anyone can, because we're all exactly a like...
    Sure they're lazy.

    If the government hadn't overstepped it's bounds and made their health my problem, this wouldn't be an issue.

    They all can eat Mickey D's every meal of their short, fat lives, then die, and I won't care.

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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    It's up to the parents and not politicians pure and simple. We can't danger-proof the world for them. Besides, as Ikari said, if it's all about costs, it costs a lot of money to support once-healthy seniors as well.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    the kids are not driving themselves to buy a happy meal
    this is yet another example of poor parenting and its adverse affects on our society
    the schools aren't helping much, either ... take a peek at the local school system's lunch menu for elementary school:
    http://www.cms.k12.nc.us/cmsdepartme...d%20carbs).pdf
    the junk food culture has become ingrained within the public schools

    the kids' parents are often also going to be fat
    should we really think they are the ones who will be able to properly guide their children's nutritional instruction as well as put healthy foods on the table for them to eat
    the right answer entitles your child to a candy cigarette

    PE is being cut in many schools since physical fitness is not a test item under NCLB
    it was under JFK, however. anyone else recall the competition to pass the president's physical fitness test? The Federal Government Takes on Physical Fitness - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum


    hell, i bet that 1/3 not passing figure would be an exceptionally positive result today. i seriously doubt anything close to 2/3 of our students would pass a physical fitness test (using the 60's objectives, not what would be watered down today to generate passing scores)

    why are we not insisting that only healthy, nutritional foods be served at schools, that kids receive active PE daily, and that nutrition be a component of the curriculum
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Someone being fat doesnt infringe on my rights, therefore isnt a danger to society. Its a danger to the person in question
    So obesity isn't a problem that causes an increase in health care costs? How about the fat guy sitting next to you on the plane? How about so many people, too fat to walk, causing an increase in handi-cap parking spots making you have to walk farther to the door at WalMart! OK the last one was humor with a little truth in there.

    No Im not, I dont justify warrantless wiretaps, the drug war, police killing innocent people, bombing third world countries in the name of "security". I believe organized religion is an authoritarian structure. I think Israel and the rest of the countries we have bases in should stand on their own two feet not on the feet of our soldiers. Im far from being a conservative.
    OK, I seem to remember you taking the con position on issues but I could be wrong so I'll take back my accusation.

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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    That "problem" is called "freedom". Freedom isn't a problem, it's the cure.
    Kind of a silly statement to make when you consider that we have the freedom now and we are not doing the right thing so there is talk about legislation. If Freedom were the cure to THIS problem then there wouldn't be THIS problem.

    Because they have to pay taxes.
    No, because they have to have the "American Dream" which has turned into - acquiring as much material stuff as possible. People don't get a second job to pay taxes, they get it to pay for a new flat screen.

    McDonald's is "tasty"?
    If not then the "free market" doesn't work, which is it, "Mr. I'll be inconsistent if it's convenient"?

    Sure they're lazy.
    So 1/3rd or approx. 64 million adults in America are just lazy people? 17% of children are also obese and therefore lazy. That's a lot of lazy people, I wonder how they support their lazy asses? Those must be the people on welfare...

    If the government hadn't overstepped it's bounds and made their health my problem, this wouldn't be an issue.
    Right, because you don't believe that in a SOCIETY your actions effect anyone else.

    They all can eat Mickey D's every meal of their short, fat lives, then die, and I won't care.
    Nice, glad to have you as a fellow citizen. NOT

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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Nobody is calling for a law that prohibits obesity. Only a few have said it would be optimal to ban junk food (instead of prohibiting toys to be sold in package). Yet the same people who are claiming: Let people decide for themselves!
    Are the same people who are all bummed out about higher taxes, and health care reform. You wanna know a little secret?

    Every 7 years, obesity will exhibit an explicit cost of about $1 trillion, and that figure will continue to rise.

    he researchers also found that 8.5 percent of Medicare expenditures, 11.8 percent of Medicaid expenditures, and 12.9 percent of private payer expenditures are attributable to obesity.
    source


    To gauge the problem, a team of doctors and cardiologists from Houston's Memorial Hermann Hospital set up a MASH unit of sorts in a middle school gym, where they run a battery of tests on 97 seemingly healthy children.

    But the results reveal an alarming reality here: three out of every four children are either overweight or obese.
    Two-thirds, more than 190 million Americans are overweight or obese.


    Battling Obesity in America - CBS Evening News - CBS News

    This is nothing short of embarrassing....
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Fat people are a danger to society?

    Only if you don't trust your elevator maintenance.

    They get fat, they die, their problem, not yours.
    All 190,000,000 of them? Way to ignore the reality of the situation.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I dunno. I feel like if they are willing to do this, just ban the junk food and save some time. Banning toys seems kind of retarded.
    Well there could be a positive side to this considering all those toys are made in China.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    I wish my county did that. I get tired of my kids whining because they want some cheap toy at McDonald's. Its annoying.

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