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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    I don't think it's the "nanny state" that is the problem but rather the millions of Americans who are unable to make the right choices for a myriad of reasons. The top few are, no time to cook because both parents are working so much, the food is tastey, it's easy to get, MARKETING WORKS.


    Uhm nannies are there to make sure the children make the right choices... so yeah, this is "nanny state" lunatic fringe kook liberalism and statism in action.




    So, I'd like all you cons to tell us how lazy these millions of Americans are, and don't forget to throw in that, if you can do the wise thing, anyone can, because we're all exactly a like...

    This makes no sense, I think you just wanted to use the "con" vernacular....
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    These round about laws are ridiculous. If they think junk food is dangerous to the kiddos, then come right out and ban it.

    Next thing is they'll want to ban the McDonald's playland. That was the only reason we ever went there...
    Agreed.

    I often just buy the damn toy and forgo the happy meal.
    In fact - most of the time my kids don't EAT the food because they're BUSY playing with the damn toy. Or, i might buy the meal and forgo the toy - it depends on why we're having to eat the crap (away from home and I can't cook is usually the only reason we ever get fast food)

    I'd also think it unconstitutional for the government to tell what a business can and cannot do as an incentive to purchase said item - why stop at the toy, then? why not take it to the games like McD's yearly Monopoly . .. which is just a ploy to sever people from their money. Or coupons and buy-one-get-one-free if it's anything other than fruits and veggies?
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Unfortunately, there have been irresponsible parents since the dawn of time. I'd rather see a kid being fed MacDonalds crap than eating a bag of chips for dinner.

    The bottom line is that it's not the gov't's business to tell business that they cannot offer a toy with a meal. *Every* time I take my son out to eat somewhere, someone brings over a little box of crayons for him to keep. Is that going to go, too?
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Unfortunately, there have been irresponsible parents since the dawn of time. I'd rather see a kid being fed MacDonalds crap than eating a bag of chips for dinner.

    The bottom line is that it's not the gov't's business to tell business that they cannot offer a toy with a meal. *Every* time I take my son out to eat somewhere, someone brings over a little box of crayons for him to keep. Is that going to go, too?

    Are the crayons edible and flavorful. Do they have warnings on them about sticking them up your nose?

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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    I don't think it's the "nanny state" that is the problem but rather the millions of Americans who are unable to make the right choices for a myriad of reasons. The top few are, no time to cook because both parents are working so much, the food is tastey, it's easy to get, MARKETING WORKS.

    So, I'd like all you cons to tell us how lazy these millions of Americans are, and don't forget to throw in that, if you can do the wise thing, anyone can, because we're all exactly a like...
    Since you seem to have us all figured out () why don't you tell us what your solution is to the "millions of Americans who are unable to make the right choices". And please, be specific.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Yes the ads get them in the door but I have never taken a kid, and I mean mine, nieces, nephews and friends kids that actually finished the food.

    They like the toy and the playland.

    My son will take 2 bites of the nuggets and a few fries then goes to play.

    If there were no toy in the pack he wouldn't want to go there at all. He really doesn't like the food.

    I don't think will catch on anyway.

    There are some pretty weird people in California and I must say the laziest.

    By the way I have no problem saying no to my son, I kind of enjoy it.

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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    *snip - wrong quote!*

    Well, your statement is the center of the issue.

    People have to simply WANT to raise their kids to be healthy, with a well balanced diet. Short of classifying obesity as child abuse and punishing the parents somehow - there's nothing you CAN do other than encouragement, support and push for options.

    The other part of the issue is that our fast food culture has honestly changed what people consider to be 'good to eat' - More and more people opt for burgers and fries over the equally priced Caesar salad that's on the menu.

    I realized this a while back when I was debating the 'healthy foods vs fast foods' issue with another mother. Her argument was that healthy foods (fruits, veggies, etc) were expensive and cooking them was too time consuming - it was cheaper and more convenient for her to just buy fast food for dinner. (maybe true for her family but if I bought fast food for everyone in my family I'd go BROKE)

    So, since cost was in question - I came up with a week's worth of healthy home-cooked recipes that she could pull off for the same amount of money within an hour. She didn't like that too much. In fact, she had a few choice words for my efforts . . . and then told me (I do quote) " . . . eggplant, green beans and broccoli. My family just doesn't like those things."

    They're AFFORDABLE. Readily available. Extremely healthy and none were complicated to prepare.
    But they just don't LIKE the taste. . . so, no matter how cheap and affordable they were, she would NEVER buy them and prepare them.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    I'm looking at my bobble-headed Stitch with the moveable ears and the four articulated arms and wondering who the hell buys a Happy Meal for the food?

    I'm also wondering from what legal authority a mere county has to ban the marketing practice of bundling products together.

    Are hamburgers illegal?

    Nope.

    Are french fries illegal?

    Nope.

    Are soft-drinks and milk illegal?

    Nope.

    Are toys illegal?

    Nope, except certain battery-powered appliances can't be sold to children.

    So, since none of those objects are illegal on their own, on what grounds do the county supervisors base their ban on product bundling? I can't see this standing up in court.

    Also, would the law not be avoided if McDonald's SOLD the toys seperately, with a major discount if purchased in combination with a hamburger, small fries, and drink, say like down to two cents?

    McDonald's in 1999 sold Millenium glasses for a buck, with the purchase of a big mac. I bought the glasses, tossed the burders. They're excellent glasses.

    I don't see in the Constitution any authority for elected bodies to assume the roll of nanny.

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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Question: How long does it take for McDonald's fries to decompose?

    I have heard rumors that they are unable to decompose due to all moisture being drawn out in the cooking and lamp process.
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    Re: Citing Obesity of Children, County Bans Fast-Food Toys

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Question: How long does it take for McDonald's fries to decompose?

    I have heard rumors that they are unable to decompose due to all moisture being drawn out in the cooking and lamp process.
    They decompose just fine.

    Take a handful of McDonald's fries to the park and scatter them on the lawn.

    Nature decomposes them in mere minutes using self-replicating waste-matter aerodynamic composting machines.

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