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Excerpted from “Source: Crist to Bolt GOP, Run for Senate as Independent; Independent Senate Run Would Roil Florida Senate Race” By JONATHAN KARL and TEDDY DAVIS, ABC News, WASHINGTON, April 28, 2010
[SIZE="+2"]F[/SIZE]lorida's Republican Gov. Charlie Crist is preparing to bolt the GOP and run for the United States Senate as an independent, a Republican source tells ABC News.


The source tells ABC News that Crist has started calling his major donors to tell them of his decision to run as an independent.

The source says that virtually all of his political staff will leave. …
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Oh, Hell, Florida is getting interesting again.
 
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'Dun heard that ' earlier today. Wonder if he actually thinKs that he is the Republican equivalent of 'Joe Da Joe' Lieberman..
 
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No biggie. He'll never win
 
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I was looking for who got the scoop on this story; I think it was the Orlando Sentinel.

Excerpted from “Sources: Gov. Charlie Crist to run as independent; Charlie Crist will be in St. Petersburg on Thursday for the announcement” By Jim Stratton and Aaron Deslatte, Orlando Sentinel, 6:14 p.m. EDT, April 28, 2010
[SIZE="+2"]B[/SIZE]arring an 11th-hour change of heart, Gov. Charlie Crist will turn Florida's U.S. Senate race on its head by formally announcing he will run as an independent and leave the party that made him one of the most recognizable politicians in the state.

Crist plans to launch his independent bid in his hometown of St. Petersburg, according to two sources close to the governor, portraying himself as a candidate more interested in serving "the people" than party bosses.

He will begin campaigning almost immediately, having already scheduled a weekend fundraiser in South Florida, the sources said.

His long-rumored break from the Republican Party will turn Florida's Senate race into the hottest political ticket in the country – a three-way scrum pitting Crist against Marco Rubio, the charismatic favorite of movement conservatives and tea party activists, and likely Democratic nominee U.S. Rep. Kendrick Meek. …
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We will see. Hope he does. I forgot who is the Democratic candidate ?
 
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Here's a good article on how could Crist fall from grace so fast and now exit the party entirely: it took years.

Excerpted from “Crist Move Follows Years of Deliberately Antagonizing GOP” By John McArdle, CQ-Roll Call, April 28, 2010 – 2:16 p.m.
[SIZE="+2"]I[/SIZE]n many ways, Crist has deliberately antagonized not only the party’s base but also mainstream Republicans since stepping into the national spotlight as Florida’s governor. He snubbed leading party officials and went way off party message — well before “The Hug.” …
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texmaster said:
No biggie. He'll never win
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He can hand the seat to the democrats though. You will remember that the Republicans made it easy for Lieberman to win in CT. I doubt that the democrats will be that dumb.
 
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texmaster said:
No biggie. He'll never win
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you are crazy.. moderation wins the state, and is the best representation for us.

Outside of tea partyesque disillusioned conservatives Rubio is not going to get any votes, and Crist will likely pick of quite a few votes that would have gone to Meeks as well. My bet is that Crist is now our next Senator.

Crist will still caucus with the R's so it won't be so bad for ya if he wins
 
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washunut said:
He can hand the seat to the democrats though. You will remember that the Republicans made it easy for Lieberman to win in CT. I doubt that the democrats will be that dumb.
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That would be one hell of a wakeup call for the current cannibalizing movement on the right if this occurs, and it is a very real possibility, Meeks has just been sitting back and not many even know he is in the race at this point. this whole Crist/Rubio drama has played out center stage, meanwhile Meeks has just sat back and continued to have fund raisers with some heavy hitters involved, yet he is still in the shadows, and is now sitting on a decent untouched bankroll ready to pounce and let his name be known.
 
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washunut said:
He can hand the seat to the democrats though. You will remember that the Republicans made it easy for Lieberman to win in CT. I doubt that the democrats will be that dumb.
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Erm, that's not exactly what happened. Lieberman won because so many Republicans voted for him. In fact, he got 70% of the Republican vote.

Florida may or may not play out the same way, with Democrats going for Crist as their best shot against Rubio. But Florida is different from Connecticut... it is a swing state that does not lean either way. So right now, all 3 competitors are probably about even with each other.
 
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crist will make a splash but he will not sustain

ie, his poll numbers will be at their peak now

Election 2010: Florida Senate - Rasmussen Reports

he refuses to say, as of today, with whom he'll caucus

even if he declared, no one would really believe him

he's all over the place, on education, on the stimulus, on offshore oil...

on his own party affiliation

he's desperate, he looks desperate, he's done

prepare for a teabagger to take the sunshine state

keystone country, as well

RealClearPolitics - 2010 Pennsylvania Senate Race

a teabagger winning pennsylvania---now, that's sea change

watch PA12, murtha's seat, may 22
 
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The Prof said:
crist will make a splash but he will not sustain

ie, his poll numbers will be at their peak now

Election 2010: Florida Senate - Rasmussen Reports

he refuses to say, as of today, with whom he'll caucus

even if he declared, no one would really believe him

he's all over the place, on education, on the stimulus, on offshore oil...

on his own party affiliation

he's desperate, he looks desperate, he's done

prepare for a teabagger to take the sunshine state

keystone country, as well

RealClearPolitics - 2010 Pennsylvania Senate Race

a teabagger winning pennsylvania---now, that's sea change

watch PA12, murtha's seat, may 22
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Not exactly...

When the GOP tried to pander to the teabaggers by passing that bill that would base teacher pay on student performance, there was a major outcry against that by Florida voters, Democrats as well as Republicans. Enough that it caused Crist to veto the bill. Rubio supported that bill, however. So it would be possible that Crist would get the votes of conservative Democrats and moderate Republicans.
 
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either he or meek will get the teachers' unions, it's true

unfortunately, in 2010 the fea won't suffice
 
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The Prof said:
either he or meek will get the teachers' unions, it's true

unfortunately, in 2010 the fea won't suffice
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It was more than the teacher unions who were against that bill.
 
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samsmart said:
Not exactly...

When the GOP tried to pander to the teabaggers by passing that bill that would base teacher pay on student performance, there was a major outcry against that by Florida voters, Democrats as well as Republicans. Enough that it caused Crist to veto the bill. Rubio supported that bill, however. So it would be possible that Crist would get the votes of conservative Democrats and moderate Republicans.
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That veto did garner him a lot of respect from a lot of people, myself included. Pragmatism over kowtowing to the popular partisan position is something that is SEVERELY lacking in our body politics, and it looks like this is exactly the angle that Crist is going to play with his campaign.

This is going to be one hell of an interesting race, and as Dav mentioned, it is anyone's ball game at this point, but being positioned in the middle cushion on the sofa, Crists seems to be the best positioned.

Can he sell the pragmatic moderate trying to do what is best, or will Meeks and Rubio be able to find ammo to snipe his credibility and portray him as an opportunist?
 
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and yet if crist had kept his oft repeated pledge to run as a republican, he'd have signed it

and that's the problem
 
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marduc said:
That would be one hell of a wakeup call for the current cannibalizing movement on the right if this occurs, and it is a very real possibility, Meeks has just been sitting back and not many even know he is in the race at this point. this whole Crist/Rubio drama has played out center stage, meanwhile Meeks has just sat back and continued to have fund raisers with some heavy hitters involved, yet he is still in the shadows, and is now sitting on a decent untouched bankroll ready to pounce and let his name be known.
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I think Meeks should now be considered the favorite. There are a lot of people, especially in SE Florida that are reflexive democrats. So he has a good base to start with. He can sit back for a few months while the others kill each other, then step in a sweep the election.

It will be interesting if we get a replay in NV. Perhaps the teaparty candidate will do the same thing Crist is doing and let Reid sneak in.
 
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The Prof said:
and yet if crist had kept his oft repeated pledge to run as a republican, he'd have signed it

and that's the problem
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Nope. He did right by the state of Florida in vetoing that bill. It's those state legislators who supported that bill who are the problem.
 
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in times like these people will demand a person who means and does what he or she says
 
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The Prof said:
in times like these people will demand a person who means and does what he or she says
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Where will they find such a person? The public gets to choose between 2 or 3 people who will lie and steal ( my opinion). So the choice is arounf the edges who will line their pockets. Most major corporations give to both sides, so their bets are covered.
 
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The Prof said:
in times like these people will demand a person who means and does what he or she says
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Unfortunately, there's a problem. While Crist promotes business interests in Florida, and thus has support of Republicans in that area, he is against the gutting of Florida's public programs, which is what the GOP pandering to the tea baggers are trying to do. So because the GOP are purifying themselves of any moderates, he doesn't sit well with the Democrats. But the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are the only viable parties that politicians can run with and get elected.

Crist isn't failing the system - the system is failing him.
 
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washunut said:
He can hand the seat to the democrats though. You will remember that the Republicans made it easy for Lieberman to win in CT. I doubt that the democrats will be that dumb.
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"Vee vill see !! "
 
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marduc said:
you are crazy.. moderation wins the state, and is the best representation for us.

Outside of tea partyesque disillusioned conservatives Rubio is not going to get any votes, and Crist will likely pick of quite a few votes that would have gone to Meeks as well. My bet is that Crist is now our next Senator.

Crist will still caucus with the R's so it won't be so bad for ya if he wins
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lol yeah ok

You just go on thinking that :rofl
 
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The Prof said:
RealClearPolitics - 2010 Pennsylvania Senate Race

a teabagger winning pennsylvania---now, that's sea change

watch PA12, murtha's seat, may 22
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Hey Prof !! I thought that you Republicans did not call those who travel on LIPTON Lane "teabagger " ? Isn't that supposed to be some form of sexual perversion ?
 
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what a teeny question, i'd be ashamed to ask

what kinda mind could come up with something so playground?
 
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