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Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

LiberalAvenger said:
Not yet, but it will be, tides winds, shift, 200,000 gallons per day.:(
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Not likely. Port Aransas is 500 miles southwest of the spill. Prevailing winds are south and southwest, so the oil will be blown away from Port Aransas. That's not even counting the gulf stream that flows from west to east.

No way possible for this oil to reach the Texas coast, much less Port Aransas.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
"Drill baby drill"
"Spill baby, spill"
"Burn baby burn"
Keith Olbermann

The new governor of virginia was bragging about how he pushed though offshore drilling off the virginia coast. Goodbye chesapeake bay.:(
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It may not happen on the Est coast but hey remember that the Ogloo Idiot Girl got the NEO NOVO Tea PARTIER at the SouthernRepub conference to orgasm when she crooned Drill baby drill" !!

Yes drill but also be aware that when you drill there may be a spill !!!

I just cannot concieve how these blank brains can actually take Ole Igloo Breath seriously !
 
F107HyperSabr said:
It may not happen on the Est coast but hey remember that the Ogloo Idiot Girl got the NEO NOVO Tea PARTIER at the SouthernRepub conference to orgasm when she crooned Drill baby drill" !!

Yes drill but also be aware that when you drill there may be a spill !!!

I just cannot concieve how these blank brains can actually take Ole Igloo Breath seriously !
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Probably the same "blank brains" that would call a woman "Idiot Girl".
 
SgtRock said:
There ya go with the political angle again. This has nothing to do with politics if you live along the gulf coast.

There has not been a major incident for 21 years. That makes it ok? You obviously don't live along the third coast. We are talking salt marshes here. Salt marshes that are in trouble already. These marshes are nurseries for for fish and winter grounds for waterfowl and shorebirds. Do you have any understanding of the natural world and how fragile a salt marsh ecosystem is? Have you ever fished or hunted?

Once again this is not a political issue. If you eat gulf shrimp or mississippi oysters you should be concerned.

You are right, its been 21 years but all it takes is one major oil spill to ruin an entire salt marsh not to mention the beaches along the coast.

I am a member of the Costal Conversation Association here in Texas. There are people from all sides of the political spectrum who are CCA members. Mark my words this leak is going to kill the coast of Louisiana.
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Adding to Jallman's post, it's pure politics until 2/3ds of a year have past. You will live. You will be fine. It's not the end of the world...hell Valdez wasn't the end of the world.

And yes 21 years does make it ok.
 
Gill said:
Not likely. Port Aransas is 500 miles southwest of the spill. Prevailing winds are south and southwest, so the oil will be blown away from Port Aransas. That's not even counting the gulf stream that flows from west to east.

No way possible for this oil to reach the Texas coast, much less Port Aransas.
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I hope you are right and I am wrong.:)
 
LiberalAvenger said:
I hope you are right and I am wrong.:)
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Yep, but the wind won't help the shores of Louisiana and Mississippi. Maybe even Alabama and Florida.

I've fished in the Venice area many times along with most of the Gulf of Mexico and parts of the Pacific. The Gulf waters off Venice are the best fishing areas I've ever seen. Inshore fishing was fantastic too. Caught 200 lb. tuna offshore and 30+ lb. reds at the mouth of the Miss. River.

Let's hope it stays that way.
 
The Uncola said:
The effects of this massive spill won't be measured for years, but the typical oil greed apologists are already at work. The damages to the environment will be felt for decades and this crisis will likely drive many small businesses out of existence. Yet here we have a bunch self appointed "experts" telling us, "it's no big deal" and "oh well, accidents happen." Shame on you.

Gulf oil spill could reach shore Thursday night

CAIN BURDEAU

Associated Press Writer= NEW ORLEANS (AP) — The edge of a massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico was expected to reach the Mississippi River delta by Thursday night and a new technique to break up the oil a mile underwater could be tried, officials said.

As of this morning, part of the slick was about 3 miles from the Louisiana shore, said National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration spokesman Charles Henry said. It's too late to stop some of the spill from reaching the coast, but BP PLC said it might attempt to break up some of the oil spewing from a blown-out a mile under water.

The company also has asked the Department of Defense if it can help with better underwater equipment than is available commercially, said BP PLC chief operating officer Doug Suttles.

(cont) Gulf oil spill could reach shore Thursday night | World news | guardian.co.uk
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Yet another person with no working understanding of this subject chiming in. I live in Lafayette La. I party in the areas affected, that being said these things happen, it sucks, but guess what it isn't the apocolypse you on the left want it to be. Here's a clue, oil seeps out of vents, fissures, and faults all the time and used to be considered a junk substance until it's combustive and elastic values were discovered in fuel an manufacturing needs. My coast, the business of my coast. Oil producers are safe, but no matter what bad things happen, besides you wanting to pull an "Iron Eyes Cody" and cry over something you can't control and didn't do over some mentally created slight against Gaia what else do you plan on doing?
 
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ADK_Forever said:
Apples and oranges
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One rig out of thousands has one accident in the past 30+ years, and you think this is a problem out of control.

No, you're merely calculating your political gain from this accident, which is nil.
 
Erod said:
One rig out of thousands has one accident in the past 30+ years, and you think this is a problem out of control.

No, you're merely calculating your political gain from this accident, which is nil.
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Remember, they care about people as long as it benefits them. They don't mention that actual people will get hurt, or that most likely 11 good hard working blue collar guys got killed. All they care about is this tragedy softening the blow their party will take over Obamacare and the other idiotic legislation coming from this regime. It makes me sick to think these automatons can't get past partisanship to actually discuss anything intelligently.
 
LaMidRighter said:
Yet another person with no working understanding of this subject chiming in. I live in Lafayette La. I party in the areas affected, that being said these things happen, it sucks, but guess what it isn't the apocolypse you on the left want it to be. Here's a clue, oil seeps out of vents, fissures, and faults all the time and used to be considered a junk substance until it's combustive and elastic values were discovered in fuel an manufacturing needs. My coast, the business of my coast. Oil producers are safe, but no matter what bad things happen, besides you wanting to pull an "Iron Eyes Cody" and cry over something you can't control and didn't do over some mentally created slight against Gaia what else do you plan on doing?
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Thank you for that fresh steaming pile. I learned long ago not to waste time trying to change a completely closed mind. Have a nice day.
 
The Uncola said:
Thank you for that fresh steaming pile. I learned long ago not to waste time trying to change a completely closed mind. Have a nice day.
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Dude, I know these guys. I know the deckhands, the engineers, the executives, the captains, and the divers. I have forgotten more about the business than you'll ever have the chance to know so you can drop the tree hugging talking points, uninformed opinions, and calling me closed minded. Unlike you I can analyze the situation and also unlike you I don't have an agenda on this thing, I do care what happens to MY area and don't care what you think.
 
It's ashore.
" ... By sunset on Thursday, the oil had reached the mouth of Mississippi river, lapping at the shoreline in long, thin lines and threatening birds, marine life and some of the country's richest seafood grounds.

The massive slick has prompted the southern US state of Louisiana to declare a state of emergency and the White House to step up its response.

Al Jazeera's Sebastian Walker, reporting from a fishing port south of New Orleans, said fishermen were out in the early hours of Friday, trying to get as much of their catch as they could before the oil slick was expected to hit the shore. ... "

Al Jazeera English - Americas - Oil slick reaches US shores
 
LaMidRighter said:
Dude, I know these guys. I know the deckhands, the engineers, the executives, the captains, and the divers. I have forgotten more about the business than you'll ever have the chance to know so you can drop the tree hugging talking points, uninformed opinions, and calling me closed minded. Unlike you I can analyze the situation and also unlike you I don't have an agenda on this thing, I do care what happens to MY area and don't care what you think.
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Who you claim to "know" and where you live is irrelevant. Experts (people who actually DO have specific knowledge of oil spills) aren't yet sure of the extent this catastrophic event will have. You certainly aren't anywhere near qualified to make predictions. NO ONE, outside of bought and paid for oil industry shills and apologists thinks this CRISIS "is no big deal." Say whatever the &*#% you please. It is a VERY BIG DEAL and is likely to become an even BIGGER DEAL as time progresses.

You're gawddamn right I have "an agenda" ...

. it's the livelihoods of shrimpers, fishermen, the tourist industry, etc, and the desecration of untold millions of acres of critical coastline habitats and the creatures that have lived there for eons, that now face a possible extinction.
 
Jerry said:
Adding to Jallman's post, it's pure politics until 2/3ds of a year have past. You will live. You will be fine. It's not the end of the world...hell Valdez wasn't the end of the world.
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You really are good at these 'apples and oranges' type comments, ain't ya?

The Exxon Valdez happened in the middle of nowhere. You know, Alaska! (Where the population is so small that an idiot can get elected as Governor.)

How many businesses do you think were adversely impacted by the Valdez spill?

How many businesses do you think this spill will affect? Say, from the western border of Louisiana to the western border of Florida. (And that's a conservative estimate. With the wind blowing from the south east to the north west this very well could hit Texas.) :doh

This accident is going to impact the southern coast of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and maybe Texas and Florida.

At the rate of the current spill rate of 210,000 gallons per day this accident could spill more than the 11 millions the Exxon Valdez spilled... and then some!

Look up the populations affected by the Valdez accident and this one. The internet can help you. :doh

And yes 21 years does make it ok.
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Only for people who don't live there and don't care about those who do.
 
The Uncola said:
You're gawddamn right I have "an agenda" ...

. it's the livelihoods of shrimpers, fishermen, the tourist industry, etc, and the desecration of untold millions of acres of critical coastline habitats and the creatures that have lived there for eons, that now face a possible extinction.
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I get a very strong feeling that you've never even been to the coastal areas of Louisiana.... and no Bourbon Street doesn't count.

The people that live on that coast have been through a hell of a lot worse than this oil spill and they will still be there fishing ten years from now.
 
Erod said:
One rig out of thousands has one accident in the past 30+ years, and you think this is a problem out of control.
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It is a problem.

I didn't say it was out of control.

No, you're merely calculating your political gain from this accident, which is nil.
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Your insecurity is showing. My only "agenda" is the environment. I don't want it destroyed for the sole purpose of making oil companies rich.
 
ADK_Forever said:
Your insecurity is showing. My only "agenda" is the environment. I don't want it destroyed for the sole purpose of making oil companies rich.
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The only beneficiaries of that oil are the big oil companies????

Remember that the next time you fill your car up with fuel.
 
Gill said:
I get a very strong feeling that you've never even been to the coastal areas of Louisiana.... and no Bourbon Street doesn't count.
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So what? Relevance?

The people that live on that coast have been through a hell of a lot worse than this oil spill and they will still be there fishing ten years from now.
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Shirley you're not going to compare a hurricane to this.

Please tell me you have some other disaster that has killed millions of sea creatures, destroyed the fishing industry, or any industry, for years to come. :roll:
 
So how much gas have you concerned environmentalists used this week? How many plastic products did you use? How much electricity generated via fossil fuels? How many of you have energy stocks in your 401(k)'s and/or IRA's?

Hopefully, since your care for the environment is so heartfelt and sincere, that number would be zero. Am I right? You concerned liberals wouldn't be big, fat hypocrites, would you?
 
ADK_Forever said:
So what? Relevance?
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Relevance is that if you've never been around those people, you have no idea how resilient they are.

Please tell me you have some other disaster that has killed millions of sea creatures, destroyed the fishing industry, or any industry, for years to come. :roll:
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Don't believe much in hyperbole do you??? :roll:
 
Erod said:
One rig out of thousands has one accident in the past 30+ years, and you think this is a problem out of control.

No, you're merely calculating your political gain from this accident, which is nil.
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Do you think the cost of destroying one of the most productive fisheries in the world was worth 30 years worth of oil?
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
What safety rule was broken to cause the explosion?
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When the cost is massive, as it is in this case, to a lot of people, both environmentally, and commercially (tourism, fishing, etc.), then more than a single safety rule would need to be in place.

That's probably the case. You typically don't just have "an error", you have a chain of errors that allows for something of this scale. You probably also have plenty of rigs that do the same sorts of errors routinely, it's just that they have gotten lucky.

Whether or not they pay to clean it up is irrelevant because if they bean count, and decide it's less costly to operate loose, and the periodic spill cleanup won't offset their gains from being loose, it's in their best interest to cause spills. Enter government to say "not OK".

It's hard though, who has enough experience with rigs to enforce safety? Former oil employees. Who are then sympathetic if not outright corrupt. How do we handle that? Apparently we don't :/
 
My dad works for the MMS, used to work for the New Orleans District and I personally know a guy they interviewed on CNN yesterday.

Nobody knows any details of why this happened so if you hear anybody spewing ANYTHING it's hearsay and not based in any fact. There were supposed to be BOP (blow out preventers) that would have stopped the flow of oil and gas if something happens with the rig but those failed to operate.

It will take between 45-90 days to drill a relief well if they can't get the oil flow to stop. To those of you who aren't happy with it burning.....the options are limited. If you burn it it turns it into a mass of crap that can be easily removed from the water with very limited harm to anything. If you try to contain it all without burning, which is impossible at this point, the ecological disaster of it hitting land would be something you couldn't put into words.

They are doing everything they can to get this thing shut off. There have been many decades since a major oil disaster has occurred. There are many rigs in the Gulf, and they operate safely. Drilling for oil is a very dangerous thing. That's why I've always called our offshore oil workers our "forgotten heros" because without them the cost of oil would be incredible, our dependence on foreign oil even more. Heck, they do more out there to help us get off the foreign oil nipple then our entire military does, yet they get no recognition for their lives they put on the line so something comes out of that gas pump when you stick it in your car.

This just proves how well they do their job because their hasn't been an accident in so long. And for those who are wondering, the rig that blew up passed inspection very recently. It's called, "**** happens!"
 
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