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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yet conservatives often reject rules to protect the environment that are not arbitrary or draconian, and even have positive long-term effects on the economy and liberty.
    I disagree. Prove it.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You know, that is a horrible thing to say. Not long ago, where was someone on the right (we all know who he is) that used our dead troops with glee to make a point. What you have just said is just as bad, which is using a catastrophe like this with glee, in order to argue a political point.

    I'm sorry, but I have to tell you that your post is absolutely disgusting.
    In all seriousness, I completely agree with you.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    That is false, when you look at actual safety law such as anti-blowout devices on rigs you will find bi-partisan support,
    You know as well as I do that there's a long list of environmental regulations that conservatives opposed that we would both agree were reasonable and not arbitrary.

    obviously wells blowing up is not good, and preventing that is necessary, proper, and of great quantifiable benefit. We don't like CAFE regulations which are set on a whim and don't consider current technological limitations, we do not support as a rule the cap and trade regulations which are arbitrary, expensive, draconian, and economy killers. We do not support that which does not have a completely logical utility. Thanks for playing.
    Right, two regulations is all you oppose. Sure.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You know as well as I do that there's a long list of environmental regulations that conservatives opposed that we would both agree were reasonable and not arbitrary.
    If there is disagreement then they just might be arbitrary. Again, wells blowing up = bad, there is no room for argument on that. Oil slicks kill wildlife = true and bad, so there is no argument that we must minimize that. Industrial solvents in the river = very bad, we must stop that. Those are all solid examples of provable negatives that put the eco-system in immediate danger, so there is nothing arbitrary about telling companies they must prevent that. Most of the environmental policy that I've disagreed with did not fall under the criteria of necessary, proper, or showing "clear and present danger".


    Right, two regulations is all you oppose. Sure.
    I'm guessing you don't follow the concept of "as an example" very well. Either that or you are being intentionally difficult.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Obama talks as oil laps at Gulf of Mexico shore

    * From: AFP
    * May 04, 2010 12:00AM

    VENICE, Louisiana: US authorities raced last night to stem the tide of a disastrous oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico, as US President Barack Obama fiercely defended his response and promised federal help for as long as needed.

    In drizzling rain and winds in front of Venice harbour, Mr Obama described the unfolding nightmare offshore as "a massive and potentially unprecedented environmental disaster".

    He flew to Louisiana to head off mounting criticism that his government's response to the Gulf Coast disaster had been too little and too late, and to neutralise a potentially devastating soundbite, that this is "his Katrina".
    Obama talks as oil laps at Gulf of Mexico shore | The Australian

    OBL 11/24/02

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    How are them ducks doing?
    So far, so good... as if you give a rat's ass.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    If there is disagreement then they just might be arbitrary. Again, wells blowing up = bad, there is no room for argument on that. Oil slicks kill wildlife = true and bad, so there is no argument that we must minimize that. Industrial solvents in the river = very bad, we must stop that. Those are all solid examples of provable negatives that put the eco-system in immediate danger, so there is nothing arbitrary about telling companies they must prevent that. Most of the environmental policy that I've disagreed with did not fall under the criteria of necessary, proper, or showing "clear and present danger".

    I'm guessing you don't follow the concept of "as an example" very well. Either that or you are being intentionally difficult.
    Please don't get huffy. The idea that conservatives always go along with environmental regulations except in a few cases is ridiculous. I guess I'll have to go dig up news stories now. Give me some time.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Couldn't be, they surrendered well before we got the fire out.
    Damn, you took the words right out of my mouth, and posted it before I had a chance to. Ya' ****ing thief. LOL.
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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    This is something new from the right, "Ex post facto blame" (coined by LA)

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    This is something new from the right, "Ex post facto blame" (coined by LA)
    To be honest there isn't much Obama can do on site so I don't see his geological position as a big deal.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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