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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    If this one incident causes Congress to put the kibosh on expanded drilling in the Gulf, we pretty much deserve to be Venezuela's and Saudi Arabia's bitch.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Just heard on NPR that attempting a controlled burnoff would take care of 3% of the spill, max. So that's not really a solution. And the pipe hasn't even been closed off so it's still spewing oil.
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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

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    I wonder if "Drill baby Drill" still resonates so with Palin supporters.
    Works for me just fine, and I don't "support" Palin.

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    I knew that such things would be a problem, but I still supported drilling as the least of evils. This is in contrast with Palin's callous chant.
    What's callous about it?

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    Conservatives give lip service to 'wise use', when really they haven't seen a resources project they didn't think was 'wise'. Liberals give lip service to 'wise use' when really most of us haven't seen a resources project we thought was 'wise'.
    More importantly, the Left never sees any project to improve American self-reliance as "wise".

    Nothing wise about leaving treasure in the dirt, dude.

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    My position is closer to my fellow liberals, however. I think it is a good idea to count the cost, which they would agree with. But, I want to then weigh the options, and choose the prudent course. "Drill baby Drill" just ignores that whole process.
    Cost so far? Eleven dead, as compared to twenty-seven in the West Virginian coal mine. So oil is cheaper in that regard than coal.

    Some muck in the ocean isn't going to kill anyone, and it's a temporary mess, anyway, even if it's allowed to reach shore.

    The prudent course is to drill our own oil, dig our own coal, tap our own natural gas reserves, and burn our own uranium so we're not dependent on the goodwill of hostile nations for the energy to run our industry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    All things considered, I still want to drill, however. But, I also want that wind project off the coast of Massachusetts, maybe Nuclear, etc. We need to get out of the ME, and let the rest of the world bear the cost of ensuring it's energy supply. With the rise of China, and the demands it will place on world energy resources, cheap energy is probably a thing of the past anyway.
    Then don't bitch about other people having the sense to demand a major increase in our exploitation of our own energy resources.

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    Getting out of the ME is my top priority. Let Europe, India and China battle for it.
    Precisely. No cost is too high to cut the Middle Eastern/Venezualan/Russian umbilical cord.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    “If this doesn't give somebody pause, there's something wrong.” — Florida Gov. Charlie Crist¹

    “The explosion, ensuing fire, and continuing spill raise serious concerns about the industry's claims that their operations and technology are safe enough to put rigs in areas that are environmentally sensitive or are critical to tourism or fishing industries.” — statement signed by Senators Bill Nelson, Frank R. Lautenberg, Robert Menendez²

    Well, that kind of sucks. To the East Coast, welcome to the shape of things to come.³
    Their going to light the slick on fire.

    This will eliminate 98% of the spill.

    What you think they don't think **** through and make multiple contingency plans?

    1: Continue work on oil cap.

    2: Begin building secondary drill site 10 miles away, drill into original site from new location, apply cement, have a cigar.

    3: Use common containment methods to control the spill.

    4: Light the spill on fire and burn off 98% of it.

    The situation's under control.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Their going to light the slick on fire.
    They better show that **** on TV, too. I wanna watch it burn.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry
    Their going to light the slick on fire.

    This will eliminate 98% of the spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Me
    Just heard on NPR that attempting a controlled burnoff would take care of 3% of the spill, max. So that's not really a solution. And the pipe hasn't even been closed off so it's still spewing oil.
    The 98% figure is the amount of oil eliminated when it is burned; the issue with this spill is not how much burns when you ignite it but actually getting it ignited, and my figure of 3% (unfortunately I can't find a transcript) says that only about 3% of the spill is concentrated enough or has the potential to become concentrated enough to ignite.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    This is turning into a major environmental calamity. They've set the spill on fire.
    FOXNews.com - New Oil Leak in Well of Sunken Drilling Rig

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The 98% figure is the amount of oil eliminated when it is burned; the issue with this spill is not how much burns when you ignite it but actually getting it ignited, and my figure of 3% (unfortunately I can't find a transcript) says that only about 3% of the spill is concentrated enough or has the potential to become concentrated enough to ignite.
    They don't try to light the entire oil spill. They use booms to sweep a small area of oil away from the main spill and tow it away. Then they burn it. Takes a few hours to burn off, then they go get some more.

    I just love the "experts" on here that spout off without having a clue as to what really goes on.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Just heard on NPR that attempting a controlled burnoff would take care of 3% of the spill, max. So that's not really a solution. And the pipe hasn't even been closed off so it's still spewing oil.
    Since they did light it off, and this would be the only time I've heard the 3% number, I think mayhaps you should reconsider listening to NPR.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The 98% figure is the amount of oil eliminated when it is burned; the issue with this spill is not how much burns when you ignite it but actually getting it ignited, and my figure of 3% (unfortunately I can't find a transcript) says that only about 3% of the spill is concentrated enough or has the potential to become concentrated enough to ignite.
    Not 3%, 98% of all the oil. They've don this before and it's very effective.

    Still, it's fun to watch all the Earth worshipers get their pink diapers in a knot about it all

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