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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    So how much gas have you concerned environmentalists used this week? How many plastic products did you use? How much electricity generated via fossil fuels? How many of you have energy stocks in your 401(k)'s and/or IRA's?

    Hopefully, since your care for the environment is so heartfelt and sincere, that number would be zero. Am I right? You concerned liberals wouldn't be big, fat hypocrites, would you?

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    So what? Relevance?
    Relevance is that if you've never been around those people, you have no idea how resilient they are.

    Please tell me you have some other disaster that has killed millions of sea creatures, destroyed the fishing industry, or any industry, for years to come.
    Don't believe much in hyperbole do you???

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    One rig out of thousands has one accident in the past 30+ years, and you think this is a problem out of control.

    No, you're merely calculating your political gain from this accident, which is nil.
    Do you think the cost of destroying one of the most productive fisheries in the world was worth 30 years worth of oil?

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    What safety rule was broken to cause the explosion?
    When the cost is massive, as it is in this case, to a lot of people, both environmentally, and commercially (tourism, fishing, etc.), then more than a single safety rule would need to be in place.

    That's probably the case. You typically don't just have "an error", you have a chain of errors that allows for something of this scale. You probably also have plenty of rigs that do the same sorts of errors routinely, it's just that they have gotten lucky.

    Whether or not they pay to clean it up is irrelevant because if they bean count, and decide it's less costly to operate loose, and the periodic spill cleanup won't offset their gains from being loose, it's in their best interest to cause spills. Enter government to say "not OK".

    It's hard though, who has enough experience with rigs to enforce safety? Former oil employees. Who are then sympathetic if not outright corrupt. How do we handle that? Apparently we don't :/

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    My dad works for the MMS, used to work for the New Orleans District and I personally know a guy they interviewed on CNN yesterday.

    Nobody knows any details of why this happened so if you hear anybody spewing ANYTHING it's hearsay and not based in any fact. There were supposed to be BOP (blow out preventers) that would have stopped the flow of oil and gas if something happens with the rig but those failed to operate.

    It will take between 45-90 days to drill a relief well if they can't get the oil flow to stop. To those of you who aren't happy with it burning.....the options are limited. If you burn it it turns it into a mass of crap that can be easily removed from the water with very limited harm to anything. If you try to contain it all without burning, which is impossible at this point, the ecological disaster of it hitting land would be something you couldn't put into words.

    They are doing everything they can to get this thing shut off. There have been many decades since a major oil disaster has occurred. There are many rigs in the Gulf, and they operate safely. Drilling for oil is a very dangerous thing. That's why I've always called our offshore oil workers our "forgotten heros" because without them the cost of oil would be incredible, our dependence on foreign oil even more. Heck, they do more out there to help us get off the foreign oil nipple then our entire military does, yet they get no recognition for their lives they put on the line so something comes out of that gas pump when you stick it in your car.

    This just proves how well they do their job because their hasn't been an accident in so long. And for those who are wondering, the rig that blew up passed inspection very recently. It's called, "**** happens!"

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I get a very strong feeling that you've never even been to the coastal areas of Louisiana.... and no Bourbon Street doesn't count.

    The people that live on that coast have been through a hell of a lot worse than this oil spill and they will still be there fishing ten years from now.
    And you clearly have no knowledge of me and "where I have been" nor what "I have seen," so can that crap, it's irrelevant.

    Whether "the people that live on that coast have been through a hell of a lot worse than this oil spill and they will still be there fishing ten years from now." or not is yet to be seen. There isn't even a VIABLE PLAN to stop the bleeding any time soon yet, let alone stop the damage that has already and will be increasingly happening.

    This is an ecological nightmare and no amount of minimizing by oil industry apologists will change that.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    I'm worried about Forrest Gump, Lt Dan, and Bubba's family. I hope they're alright...

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Somehow, Forrest will turn a profit from all this, I know it...

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    My dad works for the MMS, used to work for the New Orleans District and I personally know a guy they interviewed on CNN yesterday.
    Didn't you get the memo? Northern pantywaist liberals who drive Priuses to the Whole Foods store know more about this than those of us who live and breathe the petroleum industry every day.

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    Re: Gulf of Mexico spill may hit coast this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Relevance is that if you've never been around those people, you have no idea how resilient they are.
    I have been around them. Yes, they are a hardy lot. But, if the fishing industry is severely damaged or destroyed just what good will their hardiness be?

    Don't believe much in hyperbole do you???
    Those are very real concerns with this accident. It's only hyperbole to people who don't want to admit that this actually could be a terrible disaster.
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