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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    They are talking points because they are, well...talking points.
    No, they are called talking points by people who don't want to give them any legitimacy.

    A couple things you can't get past:

    1) Bush is gone. We don't do any good by keeping worrying about him. Even conservatives have mostly abandoned him now what his presidency proved to be a failure and it's embarrassing to defend him.
    Thank Gawd! That does not mean these issues still have no impact on us. Our servicemen and women are still dying in a war that shouldn't have been.

    2) Most of your claims are guesses. They may be true, I even suspect some to be true. They are not provable, not going to be proven, and keeping harping on them serves no piurpose.
    I have provided evidence to back up every claim I ever made here, some multiple times. They are all over this forum. These come up now because of the announcement of Bush's book coming out. Same as if Clinton were to come out with a new book. His issues would arise again, to the ever grateful right.

    Let's look at your points:

    Unprovable at best. Cheney had a lot of input, but it's unlikely he made the big decisions.
    That's your guess. Cheney made decisions that were not his to make. He drove the torture agenda. He gave two shoot down orders, after 9/11 , without talking to Bush. This is against the law.
    see: Cheney Authorized Shooting Down Planes - washingtonpost.com

    Being on vacation for a president does not mean they are not working. Far from it, they are always at work. Leave this kind of hysterics to those who want to bitch about Obama playing golf.
    Come on. Bush was on vacation when he was in the white house. His day ended much sooner than any other president. Yes, all take vacations but, 33% of his presidency he was either at Camp David or his ranch. Obama golfing isn't even in the same category.

    I'm not hysterical on this. I'm not even emotional. If anyone takes it that way, that is on them. Continually arguing a particular side is not hysterical. Name calling, personal attacks, attack the messenger type posts would fall into that category.

    Like it or not, he was smart enough to win 2 presidential elections. Further, there is evidence that you cannot refute that Bush did read a fair amount. You have a supposition based on no evidence.
    Show me any evidence that Bush read a lot... even some. His most trusted confidant, Condi-the-liar-Rice, knew it and warned people around Bush of it.

    Winning an election is no indicator of intelligence. Please. He lied thru his teeth to get elected. Is that a sign of intelligence?

    Do not get me wrong. Bush was the worst president in my lifetime, and he did untold damage to this country. There are plenty of things to complain about Bush doing. Legitimate things. But it needs to be done in a rational manner, not hysterics.
    Our politicians, on both sides, don't have the balls to do what should be done to the Bush regime. This is a political debate forum. When people twist what Bush really was, what he really did, I'm not going to let it gain any traction. That's how rightees think. They continue to repeat the same lies until over time some people start believing they are true. Too many people died because of him. Some I knew. Too many people's lives were disrupted because of him.

    Bush belongs in jail. Then he can read all the comics he wants to.
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yes, now liberals are "intolerant" because we make fun of someone! Tolerance means you can't criticize anyone for anything after all!
    Yes, liberals are intolerant. Us adults understand it quite well.

    Perhaps if your criticisms we substance-based, we'd be less inclined to point out your childish hatred of opposing viewpoints.

    K-thx!!!

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    I hope Bush takes responsibility. He had a tough time doing that. For instance, he went around saying (usually by proxy) that the intelligence he used to decide to go to war in Iraq was misleading. Well, it was his job to anticipate the lack of perfect intelligence, and to ask what would happen if it was wrong, and what he'll do about it.

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    Yes, liberals are intolerant. Us adults understand it quite well.

    Perhaps if your criticisms we substance-based, we'd be less inclined to point out your childish hatred of opposing viewpoints.

    K-thx!!!



    When you make blanket statements, you look as foolish as the other guy. Just sayin.
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    Perhaps if your criticisms we substance-based, we'd be less inclined to point out your childish hatred of opposing viewpoints.
    Irony alert.

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Irony alert.


    double Irony alert.
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Leaving aside the partisan rhetoric(why is it unsurprising that conservatives and libertarians defend Bush, while liberals attack him over this)...
    Defend Bush!? For what!? Writing a book!? Is that something that requires justification nowadays? I think the real question is, why the hell are liberals attacking Bush for writing a book?

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    When you make blanket statements, you look as foolish as the other guy. Just sayin.
    That's true.

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The ignorance and intolerance of the left is at it again...
    The denial and willful blindness of the far-righties has reared its ugly head.

    W. was a colossal failure. Owning up to that is the first step to fielding qualified candidates in 2012.

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I hope Bush takes responsibility. He had a tough time doing that. For instance, he went around saying (usually by proxy) that the intelligence he used to decide to go to war in Iraq was misleading. Well, it was his job to anticipate the lack of perfect intelligence, and to ask what would happen if it was wrong, and what he'll do about it.
    You may see his thoughts regarding the earlier years of Iraq and his regrets towards the execution, but nevertheleless thanking Rumsfeld for his service and so forth, and claim that the war in Iraq was entirely justified and will (and may even cite current progress of the regime) be a positive force for the middle east.
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