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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Congress only has access to what the prez declassifies.
    The LOTUS had full access to the classified NIE, you have no idea what you're talking about.


    Sure they/Cheeney did. Wrong again.
    Cheney never claimed that Saddam was responsible for 9-11 post the quote I'll be waiting with baited breath.

    "Nowwwwww you're sounding like Cheeney.
    "affiliates"? Seriously?
    Yes seriously, AQ is not a monolithic entity it's a franchise operation with affiliate cells operating independently from the main entity and also works in collusion with other like minded organizations. The bottom line is that Saddam was working with radical Islamist organizations to attack the U.S. and its interests.


    A) The Habbush Letter was after the war had already started. so it in no way proves that the administration lied to get us into the war as you asserted so why don't you try to quit shifting the goal posts every time you get PWNED by the facts. Even if true this letter was only used as a justification after the fact it was never used as a raison d'etre for the war.

    B) There is an ongoing congressional investigation on the matter, nothing is proven yet.

    C) Richer has denied that he was ordered by anyone to fabricate a letter.

    D) Here is the actual transcript in question:

    Ron Suskind: The Way of the World Transcripts

    In it he never claims that they forged the letter themselves or that he knew for sure who the letter came from.


    Do you ever think to research any of those right wing talking points you regurgitate... before you regurgitate them? There is oodles of evidence debunking all your points. Look to the light... it will set you free.
    All of your points have been thoroughly debunked, every single solitary one of them and now you go and shift the goal posts citing unproven assertions as if they somehow contradict anything I've said.

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The LOTUS had full access to the classified NIE, you have no idea what you're talking about.

    Cheney never claimed that Saddam was responsible for 9-11 post the quote I'll be waiting with baited breath.



    Yes seriously, AQ is not a monolithic entity it's a franchise operation with affiliate cells operating independently from the main entity and also works in collusion with other like minded organizations. The bottom line is that Saddam was working with radical Islamist organizations to attack the U.S. and its interests.




    A) The Habbush Letter was after the war had already started. so it in no way proves that the administration lied to get us into the war as you asserted so why don't you try to quit shifting the goal posts every time you get PWNED by the facts. Even if true this letter was only used as a justification after the fact it was never used as a raison d'etre for the war.

    B) There is an ongoing congressional investigation on the matter, nothing is proven yet.

    C) Richer has denied that he was ordered by anyone to fabricate a letter.

    D) Here is the actual transcript in question:

    Ron Suskind: The Way of the World Transcripts

    In it he never claims that they forged the letter themselves or that he knew for sure who the letter came from.




    All of your points have been thoroughly debunked, every single solitary one of them and now you go and shift the goal posts citing unproven assertions as if they somehow contradict anything I've said
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    Vice President Dick Cheney said Thursday the evidence is "overwhelming" that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq, and he said media reports suggesting that the 9/11 commission has reached a contradictory conclusion were "irresponsible."

    "There clearly was a relationship. It's been testified to. The evidence is overwhelming," Cheney said in an interview with CNBC's "Capitol Report."
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    CNN.com - Cheney blasts media on*al Qaeda-Iraq link - Jun 18, 2004

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Cheney never claimed that Saddam was responsible for 9-11 post the quote I'll be waiting with baited breath.
    No kidding?

    Cheney inadvertently outed himself as a liar regarding a connection between 9/11 and Iraq. Taking us back to 2002 and 2003, in order to sell the Iraq war, one will recall that there were claims of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, pilot-less drones that Iraq could use to fly those weapons to the US, and claims that Iraq was in league with Al Qaeda to attack us on 9/11. Cheney weighed in on the reported link between 9/11, Al Qaeda and Iraq several times, yesterday being the most recent and revealing episode. As reported here, Cheney: No 'evidence' of Iraq, 9/11 link - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com in an Andy Barr article in Politico:

    Former Vice President Dick Cheney says there was “never any evidence” that Saddam Hussein’s Iraq played any role in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York and Washington.

    “On the question of whether or not Iraq was involved in 9/11, there was never any evidence to prove that,” Cheney said during an interview Monday night with Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren.
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    The video of this interview can be seen at POLITICO.com: VIDEOS
    Barr’s article goes on to point out that this directly contradicts what then Vice President Cheney said in a 2003 Meet the Press Interview on NBC when Cheney said:

    “the Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack.”

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    But there is even more evidence that Barr missed. Consider the 2004 interview Cheney had on CNBC as reported here at CNN, CNN.com - Cheney blasts media on*al Qaeda-Iraq link - Jun 18, 2004 when Cheney said:

    "There clearly was a relationship. It's been testified to. The evidence is overwhelming "It goes back to the early '90s. It involves a whole series of contacts, high-level contacts with Osama bin Laden and Iraqi intelligence officials."
    "The press, with all due respect, (is) often times lazy, often times simply reports what somebody else in the press said without doing their homework."
    OpEdNews - Article: Cheney Accidentally Admits to Lying About Connection Between 9/11 and Iraq

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiNtpIpD6k"]YouTube- Cheney: I never linked Iraq with 9/11. Oh really?[/nomedia]

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RytxVNM0llQ"]YouTube- Cheney lies on Iraq-Al Qaeda ties[/nomedia]

    This guy certainly does have brass balls. He has the CIA write up a fake letter, waits for it to be published and then refers to it AS IF it has some credibility. What a liar and crook!

    You can breath now. But, all of this is available to you too. All you have to do is look for it.

    Yes seriously, AQ is not a monolithic entity it's a franchise operation with affiliate cells operating independently from the main entity and also works in collusion with other like minded organizations. The bottom line is that Saddam was working with radical Islamist organizations to attack the U.S. and its interests.
    Typical right wing word smithing lies.
    Dick Cheeney lied and people died!
    American people died!
    Lots of American people died!

    A) The Habbush Letter was after the war had already started. so it in no way proves that the administration lied to get us into the war as you asserted so why don't you try to quit shifting the goal posts every time you get PWNED by the facts. Even if true this letter was only used as a justification after the fact it was never used as a raison d'etre for the war.
    Just more proof of the Bush regime's lies to try to justify their lies that led us into a War of Choice.

    B) There is an ongoing congressional investigation on the matter, nothing is proven yet.
    Really? How's that going?

    In it he never claims that they forged the letter themselves or that he knew for sure who the letter came from.
    Good gawd man, the letter to the CIA, outlining all kinds of lies to tie up Bush and Cheney's lies, was written on the vice presidents stationary. Who do you think wrote it? The janitor?

    All of your points have been thoroughly debunked, every single solitary one of them and now you go and shift the goal posts citing unproven assertions as if they somehow contradict anything I've said.
    Are you feeling embarrassed yet? You should. Everything you've claimed has been proved wrong. If you need help searching for the truth let me know. I'd be happy to lead you to the light.
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    No kidding?


    OpEdNews - Article: Cheney Accidentally Admits to Lying About Connection Between 9/11 and Iraq

    YouTube- Cheney: I never linked Iraq with 9/11. Oh really?

    YouTube- Cheney lies on Iraq-Al Qaeda ties

    This guy certainly does have brass balls. He has the CIA write up a fake letter, waits for it to be published and then refers to it AS IF it has some credibility. What a liar and crook!

    You can breath now. But, all of this is available to you too. All you have to do is look for it.



    Typical right wing word smithing lies.
    Dick Cheeney lied and people died!
    American people died!
    Lots of American people died!



    Just more proof of the Bush regime's lies to try to justify their lies that led us into a War of Choice.



    Really? How's that going?



    Good gawd man, the letter to the CIA, outlining all kinds of lies to tie up Bush and Cheney's lies, was written on the vice presidents stationary. Who do you think wrote it? The janitor?



    Are you feeling embarrassed yet? You should. Everything you've claimed has been proved wrong. If you need help searching for the truth let me know. I'd be happy to lead you to the light.
    So when do you plan on proving all this bull**** you've been saying for years?
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Saying that Iraq and Al Qaeda had a relationship is not the same as saying Iraq was responsible for 9/11. I'm pretty certain that if Dick Cheney meant that Iraq was responsible for 9/11, he'd have said so. I don't think he's one to mince words.
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Saying that Iraq and Al Qaeda had a relationship is not the same as saying Iraq was responsible for 9/11. I'm pretty certain that if Dick Cheney meant that Iraq was responsible for 9/11, he'd have said so. I don't think he's one to mince words.
    This is Cheeney's forte! He uses someone else or another (forged or debunked) document to insinuate what he wants people to believe. He's very good at saying what he wants to without actually saying it.
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

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    So when do you plan on proving all this bull**** you've been saying for years?
    Years

    Care to expand on this?
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Cheney Admits to Lying About Iraq-9/11 Connection, Sort of - J.E. Robertson - Open Salon

    According to a book by Washington Post investigative reporter Barton Gellman, former Republican House leader Dick Armey, who was skeptical of the need to invade Iraq, at the outset, has said he changed his mind when Cheney, then vice president, told him in no uncertain terms "that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had direct personal ties to al-Qaeda terrorists and was making rapid progress toward a suitcase nuclear weapon".

    As reported by the Washington Post:

    Cheney's assertions, described by former House majority leader Richard K. Armey (Tex.), came in a highly classified one-on-one briefing in Room H-208, the vice president's hideaway office in the Capitol. The threat Cheney described went far beyond public statements that have been criticized for relying on "cherry-picked" intelligence of unknown reliability. There was no intelligence to support the vice president's private assertions, Gellman reports, and they "crossed so far beyond the known universe of fact that they were simply without foundation."

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Years

    Care to expand on this?
    Oh come on, you've been harping on Bush and Cheney for years, even making the same assertions over and over. If it was all provable there would have been an impeachment when the Dems took over Congress.
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh come on, you've been harping on Bush and Cheney for years, even making the same assertions over and over. If it was all provable there would have been an impeachment when the Dems took over Congress.
    Years?

    If you don't appreciate why they were never prosecuted then you aren't as aware of things as you portray.
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