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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

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    You don't have one? Good to know.
    he needs to read this and become educated before he spouts off any more bogus assertions ... fat chance either is going to happen

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

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    Don't forget the black helicopters, I just one a 3.90 1st place single table tournament for a buy in of a buck. Woot.
    You should be hearing the rotor blades right about now. Grab your cash and run.

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You should be hearing the rotor blades right about now. Grab your cash and run.
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Declassified Report: No Al Qaeda Link In Pre-War Iraq
    Friday September 8, 2006

    A newly-declassified (but redacted) 400-page Senate Intelligence Committee analysis of pre-war Iraq reports no evidence of a link between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda. It concludes that Hussein "distrusted" al Qaeda and "viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime."

    It includes a CIA determination that prior to March 2003, Saddam Hussein ''did not have a relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward [Abu Musab al Zarqawi] and his associates.'' Instead, he "attempted, unsuccessfully, to locate and capture al Zarqawi." A US airstrike killed al Zarqawi this summer.

    The document is a scathing indictment of the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), the document which presents a unified (some say political) front, reconciling or brushing over difference of opinion among various intelligence agencies. The NIE was used to justify attacking Iraq in March 2003.
    Hmmm… this is interesting…let’s read some more…

    Both post-war and pre-war intelligence show "no credible information that Iraq was complicit in or had foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks or any other al Qaeda strikes."
    Oh.. my… gawd… wouldn’t THOSE facts have been helpful in determining whether we wanted to send our men and women to die in Bush’s War of Choice? You betcha!

    The NIE is prepared by the Executive Branch -- all agencies are under the direct control of the President. However, Congress is supposed to provide oversight. Was the 2002 NIE flawed? That's obvious.
    Declassified Report: No Al Qaeda Link In Pre-War Iraq

    How can Congress make intelligent decisions if they're not given all the facts?

    Let me repeat that little jewel for kool-aid drinkers who don’t want to admit that Bush lied to us, “The NIE is prepared by the Executive Branch”. So, I wonder… who is at the top of the Executive Branch? Hmmm… oh yeah, that lying treasonist Bush (and Cheeney) was. And there are still some people in the country who think that Congress had "all" the facts when they voted to go to war. What has happened to our high schools these days. Maybe if our children played fewer games and studied more they wouldn't be taken in by those right wing lies.

    This is all just more evidence that Bush lied, by hiding facts in those NIE reports, to take us to war. He belongs behind bars for his treasonist actions against America! I can't wait to read his book to see how he explains why he thought he needed to lie to the American people. He'll probably blame Rove for all those lies. Kinda like how his wife, in her book, insinuates that the real reason her class mate died in that crash was not because she wasn't paying attention and drove through a stop sign at over 50 mph and t-boned his car but, that he was driving a... "Corvair" and that darn stop sign, on a straight-as-an-arrow road, was "too small". This is truly proof that there is a God. How else would you explain how those two found each other?
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Hmmm… this is interesting…let’s read some more…



    Oh.. my… gawd… wouldn’t THOSE facts have been helpful in determining whether we wanted to send our men and women to die in Bush’s War of Choice? You betcha!


    Declassified Report: No Al Qaeda Link In Pre-War Iraq

    How can Congress make intelligent decisions if they're not given all the facts?

    Let me repeat that little jewel for kool-aid drinkers who don’t want to admit that Bush lied to us, “The NIE is prepared by the Executive Branch”. So, I wonder… who is at the top of the Executive Branch? Hmmm… oh yeah, that lying treasonist Bush (and Cheeney) was. And there are still some people in the country who think that Congress had "all" the facts when they voted to go to war. What has happened to our high schools these days. Maybe if our children played fewer games and studied more they wouldn't be taken in by those right wing lies.

    This is all just more evidence that Bush lied, by hiding facts in those NIE reports, to take us to war. He belongs behind bars for his treasonist actions against America! I can't wait to read his book to see how he explains why he thought he needed to lie to the American people. He'll probably blame Rove for all those lies. Kinda like how his wife, in her book, insinuates that the real reason her class mate died in that crash was not because she wasn't paying attention and drove through a stop sign at over 50 mph and t-boned his car but, that he was driving a... "Corvair" and that darn stop sign, on a straight-as-an-arrow road, was "too small". This is truly proof that there is a God. How else would you explain how those two found each other?
    A) The NIE is not produced by the Administration, the NIE is produced by the National Intelligence Council for the POTUS, the author of your article is clearly an idiot:

    NIC MISSION
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    The National Intelligence Council (NIC) is the Intelligence Community's (IC's) center for midterm and long-term strategic thinking. Its primary functions are to:
    • Lead the Intelligence Community's effort to produce National Intelligence Estimates (NIEs) and other NIC products.


    NIC Mission
    B) You are referencing an article about the Phase 2 section of the Senate Intelligence Committees Report on Pre-War Intelligence, this was a report written as a retrospective of the intelligence failures prior to the war. It is not a report produced before the war to provide intelligence it is a report produced after the war to determine the failings of the intelligence community.

    C) The Pentagon Review of the DOCEX release entitled the "Iraqi Perspectives Project, Saddam and Terrorism: Emerging Insights from Captured Iraqi Documents (Redacted)," proves conclusively that Saddam was sponsoring terrorist activities with Islamic Radical Organizations (including AQ affiliates) against the U.S. right up to the fall of Baghdad.

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    A) The NIE is not produced by the Administration, the NIE is produced by the National Intelligence Council for the POTUS, the author of your article is clearly an idiot:
    The obvious response aside, do you really think that a report that is produced "for the president" will be released to Congress without his editing? i.e. Hiding inconvenient facts as "classified? I'll ask the same questions you ignored earlier. Who decides what is classified in those reports? Who decides what is declassified in those reports?

    B) You are referencing an article about the Phase 2 section of the Senate Intelligence Committees Report on Pre-War Intelligence, this was a report written as a retrospective of the intelligence failures prior to the war. It is not a report produced before the war to provide intelligence it is a report produced after the war to determine the failings of the intelligence community.
    It addresses what was true, not true and not included in the "three NIE reports", or summaries. Those are very big differences. It addresses what was known before the war but, not divulged before the vote to go to war.

    C) The Pentagon Review of the DOCEX release entitled the "Iraqi Perspectives Project, Saddam and Terrorism: Emerging Insights from Captured Iraqi Documents (Redacted)," proves conclusively that Saddam was sponsoring terrorist activities with Islamic Radical Organizations (including AQ affiliates) against the U.S. right up to the fall of Baghdad.
    You sound like Dick Cheeney. To say "Iraq sponsored terrorism" has the intentional purpose of insinuating that Iraq sponsored Al Qaeda. This is 100% proven false. Iraq was an enemy of Al Qaeda and Bin Laden.

    Dick Cheeny had the CIA create a fake document making it look like Hussein had met with a 9/11 hijacker. That document was then reported in the news, in the administration's personal newspaper, The New York Times. Then, on a Sunday political talk show the shooter referenced that fake document in that article in an attempt to validate the data in the article. Talk about "cooking the books"! Do you really thing that an administration as corrupt as they were would ever allow information out that discredited their lies? Nev-Ver!
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Some people have a hard time letting go of their Bush Derangement Syndrome.



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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    The obvious response aside, do you really think that a report that is produced "for the president" will be released to Congress without his editing? i.e. Hiding inconvenient facts as "classified? I'll ask the same questions you ignored earlier. Who decides what is classified in those reports? Who decides what is declassified in those reports?
    For the last time the LOTUS had access to the entire NIE that the POTUS had.

    It addresses what was true, not true and not included in the "three NIE reports", or summaries. Those are very big differences. It addresses what was known before the war but, not divulged before the vote to go to war.
    The only thing your article said about pre-war intelligence is that Saddam had no link to 9-11, but that was a claim never made by the administration to begin with. And yet again the Administration and the Congress both had access to the best intelligence report available at the time IE the NIE.

    You sound like Dick Cheeney. To say "Iraq sponsored terrorism" has the intentional purpose of insinuating that Iraq sponsored Al Qaeda. This is 100% proven false. Iraq was an enemy of Al Qaeda and Bin Laden.
    Saddam did sponsor AQ affiliates.

    Dick Cheeny had the CIA create a fake document making it look like Hussein had met with a 9/11 hijacker. That document was then reported in the news, in the administration's personal newspaper, The New York Times. Then, on a Sunday political talk show the shooter referenced that fake document in that article in an attempt to validate the data in the article. Talk about "cooking the books"! Do you really thing that an administration as corrupt as they were would ever allow information out that discredited their lies? Nev-Ver!
    Of course you have something in the way of evidence of Cheney or anyone on his directive creating a fake document to that effect right?
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    For the last time the LOTUS had access to the entire NIE that the POTUS had.
    Congress only has access to what the prez declassifies.

    The only thing your article said about pre-war intelligence is that Saddam had no link to 9-11, but that was a claim never made by the administration to begin with. And yet again the Administration and the Congress both had access to the best intelligence report available at the time IE the NIE.
    Sure they/Cheeney did. Wrong again.

    Saddam did sponsor AQ affiliates.
    "Nowwwwww you're sounding like Cheeney.
    "affiliates"? Seriously?

    Of course you have something in the way of evidence of Cheney or anyone on his directive creating a fake document to that effect right?
    Absolutely.
    A forged letter linking Saddam Hussein to the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks was ordered on White House stationery and probably came from the office of Vice President Dick Cheney, according to a new transcript of a conversation with the Central Intelligence Agency's former Deputy Chief of Clandestine Operations Robert Richer.
    The Raw Story | Tape: Top CIA official confesses order to forge Iraq-9/11 letter came on White House stationery

    Do you ever think to research any of those right wing talking points you regurgitate... before you regurgitate them? There is oodles of evidence debunking all your points. Look to the light... it will set you free.
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