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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I doubt he gives a **** about historians, and believe me nothing he ever says will change their minds.
    Of course he does.

    The President repeatedly declared that his actions would eventually be looked upon favorably by "history."
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's not that he doesn't give a **** about historians. It is that he doesn't know what they are.
    He just didn't have one near his crotch like Kennedy did with Schlesinger.
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I doubt he gives a **** about historians, and believe me nothing he ever says will change their minds.
    What DID he give a **** about?
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

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    Bush doesn't owe you or anyone else an answer to anything. Got it?
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    You either don't get it or don't want to. Bush and Cheney released what info they wanted to for that report.
    Did you read my links? Info was LEFT OUT OF THE REPORT.
    Yes those links said that Bush didn't believe the Iraqi Foreign Minister. Woopedy doo.


    Those 16 members could only work with what they were given.
    Wow, your own links said it was the CIA that told Bush about what the Iraqi Foreign Minister had said. The intelligence community gives the Administration information not the other way around and that information comes in the form of the annual NIE in which all 16 members of the intelligence community came to the consensus opinion that Iraq had WMD and was reconstituting WMD production.

    Geeze Louise!
    You don't even read your own links and have no clue whatsoever how intelligence gathering works in this country, in fact your impression is the exact opposite of the way it operates.

    Zero? Shirley you jest!
    No actually I don't jest. Tell me again your take on the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, I need another good laugh.

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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    http://www.monkeydyne.com/bushresume/early.html

    That link pretty much spells it out....the shrub was helped throughout most of his life. Without his family's influence, he wouldn't have had a chance to get his name in any history books.

    The same goes for the Kennedys, Al Gore Jr, Jesse Jackson Jr, Jay Rockefeller, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, etc etc etc

    And if Obama was a white guy he never would have been accepted at Harvard law and never would have been president.



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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    You almost have it right. The reason the left hates Bush is that the left is intolerant of ignorance.
    If that is so why do high school dropouts always favor the lefties in elections? Why do the groups with the lowest IQs and the lowest rates of high school graduation favor the dems so heavily?



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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If that is so why do high school dropouts always favor the lefties in elections? Why do the groups with the lowest IQs and the lowest rates of high school graduation favor the dems so heavily?
    Do they? I thought it was just the opposite. The dumber they are, the more they vote republican....
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Yes those links said that Bush didn't believe the Iraqi Foreign Minister. Woopedy doo.
    It's interesting what you do and don't see.

    This probably doesn't carry any weight with you either, ehh?
    No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIA among those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris
    Yes those links said that Bush didn't believe the Iraqi Foreign Minister. Woopedy doo. Wow, your own links said it was the CIA that told Bush about what the Iraqi Foreign Minister had said. The intelligence community gives the Administration information not the other way around and that information comes in the form of the annual NIE in which all 16 members of the intelligence community came to the consensus opinion that Iraq had WMD and was reconstituting WMD production.
    Your refusing to read makes having an intelligent conversation with you very difficult. The link told you that the CIA said there was information left out of the NIE report. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Or is it simply that you won’t admit it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris
    You don't even read your own links and have no clue whatsoever how intelligence gathering works in this country, in fact your impression is the exact opposite of the way it operates.
    You're the one not reading.

    Three versions of the NIE report were released. Bush and shooter selectively declassified cherry picked info to get Congress to give them that carte blanc to go into their War of Choice. The final version is why the CIA said important intel was not made available to Congress.

    There have been three separate releases of the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iraq's Continuing Programs for Weapons of Mass Destruction, including most recently a June 1, 2004 CIA response to a Freedom of Information Act request by the National Security Archive. The CIA released an Unclassified version of the NIE, titled Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction Programs, in October 2002. In response to the brewing controversy over U.S. intelligence estimates of Iraqi WMD programs, the White House approved the release of another version of the report in July 2003.
    CIA Whites Out Controversial Estimate on Iraq Weapons

    To educate yourself on this, read thru the link. I suspect you won't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris
    No actually I don't jest. Tell me again your take on the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, I need another good laugh.
    Shirley you do. The fact that you, or any American, laugh at what Bush and Cheney and Libby and Rove conspired to do to bring us into their War of Choice is sad. Tens and hundreds of thousands of people were killed in that war. And more Americans are dying in Iraq every day... all because that spoiled brat wanted to show daddy that he could do... something.

    Ok, let's look at what you're waving around.
    SEC. 602. [50 U.S.C. 422] (a) It is a defense to a prosecution under section 601 that before the commission of the offense with which the defendant is charged, the United States had publicly acknowledged or revealed the intelligence relationship to the United States of the individual the disclosure of whose intelligence relationship to the United States is the basis for the prosecution.
    Please tell me, when did ”the United States publicly acknowledged or reveal the intelligence relationship to the United States of the individual”, Valerie Wilson? Never happened.

    “United States “ refers to the government, not to an individual. That sissy Rove doesn’t represent the U.S. Armitage doesn’t. Libby doesn’t. Contrary to Cheney’s claims, he cannot declassify a covert agents status. I’m pretty sure the president can’t either but, I can’t find the document I’m looking for. “Only” the CIA can change a covert agents status.

    It’s funny how you ignore this section of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act:
    "Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined not more than $50,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."
    Face it, pal. They’re all guilty as hell and deserve to be in jail.
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    Re: Memoir by George W Bush to be published in November

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The same goes for the Kennedys, Al Gore Jr, Jesse Jackson Jr, Jay Rockefeller, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, etc etc etc

    And if Obama was a white guy he never would have been accepted at Harvard law and never would have been president.
    I agree, family connections make life easier for some. Doesn't make it right whether we are talking about the DEMS or the GOP. The legacy thing only serves to put non-deserving people into a higher status than they could have achieved on their own. BUT, the damage has been done. It has become accepted that dumb people can now aspire to be president.
    As for the Obama statement you made, you should be able to back that up like I did about GWB....otherwise, it is just your opinion.
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