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    Re: Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day"

    i think this cartoonist should draw a cartoon of mohammed and jesus having sex with each other, and see who gets the most offended
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    Re: Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day"

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Guess it would be fine to have a "piss on the bible" day too... where people actually piss on the bible.

    Difference being that no one gets death threats for pissing on the Bible. They might get a grant from The National Endowment for the Arts (if someone calls it art)

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    Re: Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day"

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    i think this cartoonist should draw a cartoon of mohammed and jesus having sex with each other, and see who gets the most offended
    I think you know which religious group would be rioting in the streets, burning effigies, and issuing death threats, eh???

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    Re: Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day"

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Difference being that no one gets death threats for pissing on the Bible. They might get a grant from The National Endowment for the Arts (if someone calls it art)
    No it is just rarely news worthy that is all. Christian fundies are no different than their Muslim counterparts. They murder, attack and threaten people who they believe are going against gods word. They protest defacing of the bible and send threats. I remember the Jerry Springer show play in London.. man they went nuts over that. Death threats, legal action and so on.

    I mean have you heard of the death threats against Elton John by Christian fundies? Or the death threats abortion doctors receive on a weekly if not daily basis? Of course not, it is not politically correct to plaster such things all over the news, where as a Muslim giving a death threat against someone is first page news often!
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    Re: Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day"

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I think you know which religious group would be rioting in the streets, burning effigies, and issuing death threats, eh???
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    Re: Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    I understand her motivation - freedom of ideas and freedom of the press - and I embrace these freedoms. But I also think that sinking to this level is rude, crude, unnecessary, and counterproductive. Islamophobia is just as ugly as anti-Semitism.
    I don't see this as Islamophobia.



    On her website Norris explains this is not meant to disrespect any religion, but rather meant to protect people's right to express themselves.
    Comedy many times is irreverent. Even if Mel Brooks wasn't Jewish, it would have been just as funny if anyone would have done the "I present you the fifteen... *crash*....ten, TEN commandments". That wasn't anti-Semetic.

    Dogma was another comedy that challenged the dogma of the Catholic Church. It wasn't saying that all Catholics should be exterminated.
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    Re: Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day"

    Belief systems are voluntary. In the case of Islam. it may not SEEM voluntary for hundreds of millions of its adherents, but it is voluntary nevertheless. As such, it should be open to inspection just like any other belief system. The fact that so many adherents of Islam are outraged by so many things, and spurred to great attrocities because of their outrage only indicates that much of the structure of the religion is totalitarian in nature. That is why this particular belief system needs to be resisted -- because it allows for no other.

    I, for one, do not consider the resistance of a totalitarian belief system to be the stuff of bigotry, even if it is too often portrayed as such. It is quite a different matter than being prejudiced against a person because of their ethnicity, sexual orientation or gender, and for the exact reason that the belief system IS entirely voluntary, whereas race, ethnicity, gender and sexual orientation are not.
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    Re: Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    . Islamophobia is just as ugly as anti-Semitism.
    But one involved a religion chosen by the adherent and the other involves fixed ethnicity. Antisemitism is expressed in very predictable ways that have little, if anything to do with the religion of Judaism. Instead, the attacks have to do with such matters as undue control, manipulativeness, questions of loyalty, behind the scenes shenanigans, and the usual repetoire of canards in addition to the singling out of Jewish people for the sorts of attacks not levelled against any other. It's not what you believe that is in question, especially inasmuch as precious few Jews are religious fundamentalists. It is who you are that is the issue, and so I don't think you can really compare the two. Certainly, there exists bigotry against Muslim people, but since not all Muslims would express outrage if Mohammad were drawn in a cartoon, the issue here is one of a belief system and not a people.
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    Re: Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day"

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Guess it would be fine to have a "piss on the bible" day too... where people actually piss on the bible.
    How can you equate pissing on the bible to drawing a cartoon of mohammad?

    And besides artist continuly make fun at christianity for example; Virgin Mary painting with dung & and Piss Christ. Where are the death threats and riots in the streets from angry christians?

    Check out these anti christian sites. some sell anti christian art.

    Anti Christian Posters, Prints and Anti Christian Art

    The Antichristian Phenomenon

    Anti Christian Gifts, T-shirts, Stickers and more - CafePress
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    Re: Seattle cartoonist launches "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    I understand her motivation - freedom of ideas and freedom of the press - and I embrace these freedoms. But I also think that sinking to this level is rude, crude, unnecessary, and counterproductive. Islamophobia is just as ugly as anti-Semitism.
    I agree if we're speaking about hatred towards the Jewish religion and Jewish believers.

    I do not see, however, the hatred towards people that is based on their belief - on what they choose to believe in - the same as hatred towards people based on their ethnicity/race - something that they are born into.

    That being said, both are obviously wrong, disgusting and repulsive.
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