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    Re: Mexicans Riot in Wake of Arizona Immigration Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    My wife also immigrated to the USA legally over 30 years ago. My great grandparents were LEGAL immigrants. It pisses me off to no end that people disregard our laws and then protest and demand rights. Well IMO they have a right to be hand cuffed and put on a buss or slow boat back to wherever they came from. Freakin illegal criminal immigrants need to go home and apply for a freakin work visa.
    Well let's face it unless you are a North-American Indian chances are that you or your ancestors came here as immigrants since 1492. And as I said before as a legal immigrant I am pissed off that illegals have been coming here and I also am concerned that the "collateral damge" is that all immigranst including legals will be subjected to some form of prejudice - again.
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    Re: Small Riot Breaks Out at Immigration Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. V

    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for welfare social services by the American taxpayers.

    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.

    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from terrorist countries.

    12. The National Policy Institute, “estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.”

    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.

    14. “The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.”
    There is one thing that can fix this problem. Guess what it is!
    Even if 1/14th of this is true that is real bad. Your source ??
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    Re: Small Riot Breaks Out at Immigration Protest

    My whole problem with this law is that there are already measures in place for police to check the legal status of a person. This law is redundant and appears very racist. If the police arrest a citizen, it should be because they committed a crime, not because they were in a hurry and forgot their "papers". I came here illegally in 1979 and was granted amnesty in 1986. I got to know a lot of people I stood in line next to while waiting for this amnesty and I can tell you that not only did i assimilate very well into this great country but so did my friends. The majority of illegal immigrants come here not to cause trouble or take a handout but in the hopes of one day becoming american citizens no matter how small a hope they may have. In fact i would go so far as to call them "new age pilgrims". However, unlike the pilgrims, the majority of us want to assimilate.

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    Re: Small Riot Breaks Out at Immigration Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I would think that with this law signed illegals would be wary of doing something to draw attention to themselves. Because rioting would give the police a reason to ask for id/proof of citizenship when they are being arrested for rioting.
    Yep.

    They should have had cops start asking for papers of rioters the second they signed the law.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    It was not much of a riot. More like a couple of scuffles. Cooler heads prevailed.
    While it got very little camera time, I did see one Mexican flag being waved by protesters. This is one way to definately turn me off to any complaint they may have had. This is not Mexico.
    I wonder if they will be as bold as they were last time?
    Flying American flags upside down, amongst a sea of Mexican flags?

    I hope they protest en masse.
    It will only serve to piss off Americano's and drive the same law to be passed in other states.
    The silent masses have been awakened by the Rules fer Radikals Administration.

    There's no putting the Genie back in the bottle until we've rid the government of the Alinskyites and assorted Radikals.

    It's obvious, many Americans are tired of being pointed to as the problem... when it's the government wreaking havoc and in this instance not upholding the laws they write.

    We've heard lot's of words, just words.

    Thanks Arizona. Someone had to do the difficult task of leading.
    I'm happy a state finally poked its finger in the eye of the Federal Government.
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    Re: Small Riot Breaks Out at Immigration Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Mango View Post
    My whole problem with this law is that there are already measures in place for police to check the legal status of a person. This law is redundant and appears very racist. If the police arrest a citizen, it should be because they committed a crime, not because they were in a hurry and forgot their "papers". I came here illegally in 1979 and was granted amnesty in 1986. I got to know a lot of people I stood in line next to while waiting for this amnesty and I can tell you that not only did i assimilate very well into this great country but so did my friends. The majority of illegal immigrants come here not to cause trouble or take a handout but in the hopes of one day becoming american citizens no matter how small a hope they may have. In fact i would go so far as to call them "new age pilgrims". However, unlike the pilgrims, the majority of us want to assimilate.
    Being here illegally is a crime.
    The law isn't racist.
    They're not Pilgrims, they're illegals.
    The illegals eat a ton of resources. How can 20 million illegals not?

    Amnesty under Reagan was supposed to stop the nonsense.
    It got worse.
    Time to do what was supposed to happen 25-years ago with Reagan's Amnesty program.

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    To understand the law and its relation to the Federal Law, have a listen to the first 15 minutes of the April 26th show.

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    Re: Small Riot Breaks Out at Immigration Protest

    zimmer.

    Mark Liven is the problem with your source he is nothing but an pundit talking head. Yes being here illegally is a crime what I am worried about is being pulled in, because I talk funny or the fact I am a different color than the cop. I am worried how it is going be implemented this is why I think this law is unjustified. I am not pro illegal by the way.

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    Re: Small Riot Breaks Out at Immigration Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    zimmer.

    Mark Liven is the problem with your source he is nothing but an pundit talking head. Yes being here illegally is a crime what I am worried about is being pulled in, because I talk funny or the fact I am a different color than the cop. I am worried how it is going be implemented this is why I think this law is unjustified. I am not pro illegal by the way.
    Mark Levin is a lawyer and was Chief of Staff to the Attorney General, so he is a bit more than a "pundit talking head."

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    Re: Small Riot Breaks Out at Immigration Protest

    To all the supporters of this law: I will give up my 14th amendment rights for your safety if you give up your 2nd amendment rights for my safety. Untill then I will continue to abhor this law. By the way, why is nobody talking about the authors of this law. I wont post any links as it has been very well documented on all the major news stations that it was written by a racist. We all know his name.
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    Re: Small Riot Breaks Out at Immigration Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Mango View Post
    To all the supporters of this law: I will give up my 14th amendment rights for your safety if you give up your 2nd amendment rights for my safety. Untill then I will continue to abhor this law. By the way, why is nobody talking about the authors of this law. I wont post any links as it has been very well documented on all the major news stations that it was written by a racist. We all know his name.
    Know him personally or something?
    That's a rather harsh toss for someone you have never even MET, let alone know well enough to get inside his head and probe his THOUGHTS.
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    Re: Small Riot Breaks Out at Immigration Protest

    Something needs to be done in Arizona, but not this racist bill that allows reasonable suspicion because one is not white.

    Here is a good solution, in a multi part format.

    1) When someone is stopped for any crime, be it a felony, or just a traffic violation, a check is run on the suspect's immigration status. If he is illegal, he is then taken into custody, and deported. His car is impounded and sold, the proceeds going into the "Special Fund". His bank account is also seized, and put into the "Special Fund". More on this special fund later.

    2) If an employer is caught knowingly employing illegal aliens, he is charged with a crime. Conviction carries an automatic 30 day jail sentence, and a $5,000.00 fine for each illegal alien employed. Part of the fine covers court costs, with the remainder going into the "Special Fund".

    3) Now, what is this "Special Fund" all about? Border enforcement, of course. This fund is to be used by the Arizona National Guard to station troops on the border. If anyone comes across, they are arrested and sent back. If they come across in vehicles, those vehicles are impounded and sold, with the money going back into the "Special Fund". If anyone attempts to flee, after being told to stop, they are shot, and their bodies are sent back.

    This would all be perfectly legal, as a California decision was that, in the area of existing Federal border enforcement, there is dual jurisdiction between the states and the Federal government. Also, there is no racial profiling involved, so that is no longer an issue.

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