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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    If I am stopped on my way to work purely because of my ethnicity it is racial discrimination. My freedom of action (liberty) is imparied compared to others


    It would not be racist to be looking for a specific criminal in the area in which the crime is believed to have taken place. Meaning checking for a period of time people who match the description of the suspect would not be racist no matter which ethnicity it was

    But stopping people over a non specific crime (ie illegal immigrants) where they do not have a specific suspect in mind (ie hispanic 24-30 years of age wearing a white T shirt ) but a general suspect (ie hispanic and all hispanics) and targetting all hispanics for extra enforcement is racial discrimination
    Yeah, I just don't see that.

    And did you say why racial discrimination is racist?

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Yeah, I just don't see that.

    And did you say why racial discrimination is racist?
    If I beat up chinese people every day, just for fun, but not because I think I am superior to them am I racist or not?
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    If I beat up chinese people every day, just for fun, but not because I think I am superior to them am I racist or not?
    So you are comparing beating up a race with checking their ID? One violates the harm principle, the other does not.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    If I am stopped on my way to work purely because of my ethnicity it is racial discrimination. My freedom of action (liberty) is imparied compared to others
    How about if you get back to the Arizona law, which requires a probable cause for stopping a person BEFORE and the requires the establishment of probable cause that the person is an Invader before checking his status with the ICE?

    Hmm...? No more strawmen. I'm racist against dried grass people.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Good thing were not talking about this specific law when in the last few points then.
    You're certainly not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    But discussing whether or not racial profiling is racial discrimination
    But racial profiling isn't racial discrimination.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I thought she raped alligators...is that illegal?
    Only if the alligator doesn't like it.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    If I beat up chinese people every day, just for fun, but not because I think I am superior to them am I racist or not?
    Maybe you're just searching for the next Bruce Lee.

    He'll let you know when you've found him.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The law I believe also made it illegal to hire day labour of any kind, not just illegal immigrants
    Would you PLEASE read the damn law, then post.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
    Would you PLEASE read the damn law, then post.
    What, you want him to waste all that ammunition? If he'd read the law he would have to be dishonest to be posting what he is.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
    Would you PLEASE read the damn law, then post.
    Sec. 5. Title 13, chapter 29, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended by
    2 adding sections 13-2928 and 13-2929, to read:
    3 13-2928. Unlawful stopping to hire and pick up passengers for
    4 work; unlawful application, solicitation or
    5 employment; classification; definitions]adding sections 13-2928 and 13-2929, to read:
    3 13-2928. Unlawful stopping to hire and pick up passengers for
    4 work; unlawful application, solicitation or
    5 employment; classification; definitions
    6 A. IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR AN OCCUPANT OF A MOTOR VEHICLE THAT IS STOPPED
    7 ON A STREET, ROADWAY OR HIGHWAY TO ATTEMPT TO HIRE OR HIRE AND PICK UP
    8 PASSENGERS FOR WORK AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION IF THE MOTOR VEHICLE BLOCKS OR
    9 IMPEDES THE NORMAL MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC.
    10 B. IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO ENTER A MOTOR VEHICLE THAT IS
    11 STOPPED ON A STREET, ROADWAY OR HIGHWAY IN ORDER TO BE HIRED BY AN OCCUPANT
    12 OF THE MOTOR VEHICLE AND TO BE TRANSPORTED TO WORK AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION IF
    13 THE MOTOR VEHICLE BLOCKS OR IMPEDES THE NORMAL MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC
    Given that is how day labour is typically hired by indpendant contractors, it sort of makes day labour as typically practiced illegal

    Notice how it does not say anything about illegal immigrants in this section
    Last edited by Lord Tammerlain; 04-29-10 at 12:13 AM.
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