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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
    You are ignoring the reasonable suspision wording in the law again.
    You are the one who is ignoring it.

    "REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN"

    The criminal activity they are judging a person for is whether or not they are in the country illegally. By what standard are they going to determine this?

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Federal law doesn't give federal law enforcers the authority to ask for those documents based just on a person's skin color or manner of speaking.
    The bill prohibits racial profiling by saying that race can only be considered to the "extent permitted by the United States or Arizona Constitution." Under no circumstances can the officer "solely" consider race, color or national origin. Racial profiling was not allowed before the bill and it's not allowed after the bill.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    You "think" is all you've been able to show here.

    Really? I suggest you do a little research on the subject before sounding off on things you know nothing about.

    U.S. Justice Department

    Should I continue?
    Where do any of those cases give local cops the authority to demand papers from Hispanic citizens based solely on their skin color or manner of speaking? That is what I am primarily arguing.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    The bill prohibits racial profiling by saying that race can only be considered to the "extent permitted by the United States or Arizona Constitution." Under no circumstances can the officer "solely" consider race, color or national origin. Racial profiling was not allowed before the bill and it's not allowed after the bill.
    Where does it say that in the law? Provide the actual wording.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    I support racial profiling. What is wrong with it?

    edit: which is not to say that this law supports it.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I support racial profiling. What is wrong with it?

    edit: which is not to say that this law supports it.
    Ever heard of the 14th amendment?

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Ever heard of the 14th amendment?
    It does not apply to racial profiling. If you think it does, lay it out for me.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill








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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It does not apply to racial profiling. If you think it does, lay it out for me.
    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    I would say that legally endorsed racial profiling definitely violates that.
    Last edited by CriticalThought; 04-27-10 at 07:36 PM.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post


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    Sorry, we can't all hang around the forum all day waiting for answers.

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