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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Mango View Post
    To all legal Arizona hispanic residents: We must fight peacefully this travesty of justice no matter how long it takes. We can do this in a number of ways. First don't answer ANY questions that pertain to your legal status in this country. Don't carry ANY type of documentation with you AT ANY TIME untill this thing is repealed. Third, speak to the officer ONLY in SPANISH. Lets have as many legal citizens arrested under this law as we can. Remember, they won't give you ANY civil rights unless you fight for them, just ask our African-American friends.
    So this is good for your country, which I assume is America?
    Why is it ok to be in the country illegally?
    What would you do to solve the illegal problem in Arizona?
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Another question is how much safer will Arizonans be with new law being enforced …

    “The Arizona immigration law will likely hinder federal law enforcement from carrying out its priorities of detaining and removing dangerous criminal aliens. With the strong support of state and local law enforcement, I vetoed several similar pieces of legislation as Governor of Arizona because they would have diverted critical law enforcement resources from the most serious threats to public safety and undermined the vital trust between local jurisdictions and the communities they serve. I support and am actively working with bipartisan members of Congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform at the federal level because this issue cannot be solved by a patchwork of inconsistent state laws.” — Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Gov. Jan Brewer's predecessor as Arizona governor†
    Yeah... we know where Ms. "I never met a terrorist I didn't like" Napolitano is coming from!
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Wow! Just, wow! This bill is a colossal error.
    So you're against sending illegal immigrants home? Why have a law if you're not going to enforce it?

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    And probable cause is a requirement. Read the law again.



    which is exactly what the law says.
    As they can check your id in such cases, why do they need a law to check id, in which they already have the legal right to do so?

    So in your mind you should never ever have to prove who you are unless you are doing something voluntary.

    Exactly how does that make sense?
    Or if I am doing something illegal, (that the police have probable cause to believe so, and not just because of my ethnicity)

    Otherwise no I should not have to prove who I am. If I dont want to vote, no need for them to know who I am, if am not cashing a cheque, not need to know who I am. If I am just walking down the street or hanging out in a park, asking me anything is fine, forcing me to answer is not
    And please cite the law you are quoting that makes this true. Can't wait to see this one
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    LOL... the Euros have been pretty quite in this thread.
    Good reason. They can and do racial profile.
    They can stop you without any cause and demand your papers.
    In your car, on foot, in public transport. Happens ALL DAY, everyday.

    Well, if Paco ain't speeky engi too goood man, it's one indication... for a perfessionali trained oefficer ov de lew. Two perhaps:

    1. Public skoolz suck big dicks.
    2. It's likely he is an illegal. That's a prubbuble cuss.

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    No it is not probabe cause if a person is not speaking english.

    There is something called free speech in the US. It does sort of protects the right of people to speak in any language they so choose. Heck they could speak Klignon all day long if they so choose. They might not and most likely wont get hired for any job outside of a trekie convention, but that is their right
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    QUOTE]"Heck they could speak Klignon all day long if they so choose. "[[/QUOTE]

    That would be an obvious indicator that we just may indeed have an illegal alien
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    While reading on this subject, I ran across this article. Just another view of what Arizona Republicans may really be up to. And, interesting enough, Karl Rove's name popped up. Son of a gun.

    Our investigation in Arizona discovered the real intent of the show-me-your-papers law.

    Phoenix - Don't be fooled. The way the media plays the story, it was a wave of racist, anti-immigrant hysteria that moved Arizona Republicans to pass a sick little law, signed last week, requiring every person in the state to carry papers proving they are US citizens.

    I don't buy it. Anti-Hispanic hysteria has always been as much a part of Arizona as the saguaro cactus and excessive air-conditioning.

    What's new here is not the politicians' fear of a xenophobic "Teabag" uprising.

    What moved GOP Governor Jan Brewer to sign the Soviet-style show-me-your-papers law is the exploding number of legal Hispanics, US citizens all, who are daring to vote - and daring to vote Democratic by more than two-to-one. Unless this demographic locomotive is halted, Arizona Republicans know their party will soon be electoral toast. Or, if you like, tortillas.
    t r u t h o u t | Behind The Arizona Immigration Law: GOP Game to Swipe the November Election

    This may have nothing to do with immigration. It may be all about politics after all. Tom DeLay type politics. Interesting.
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If you are not naturalized you are already required to carry your immigration documents.


    Are there actually any legal distinctions between an alien and a immigrant?
    Well if all non Naturalized immigrants are required to "carry " immigration documents I guess that I was in violation every single day until I was Naturalized.

    " distinctions between an alien and a immigrant" ? Well anyone who comes here is an immigrant and and if he is an permanent resident immigrant the official status is "permenent resident alien". Once an immigrant becomes Naturalized he no longer is an alien but will be an immigrant for life.

    Someone who is here temporarily is an alien.

    That is my understanding. That is why I can say that I am an immigrant but since I am a citizen I am not an alien.

    ps I do not speak Klingon !!
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    The anti-Indian legislation is a fascist measure. It’s not surprising that it finds its primary support on the white supremacist forum Stormfront, where the rhetoric in favor of it is indistinguishable from that here.

    Arizona Bill SB 1070 to Require Local Cops to Enforce Immigration Law - Stormfront

    "Racial profiling." Those magic words which work so well within the media and the political system. We also refer to it as the "race card."…As I see it, these are legitimate measures being proposed to deal with a serious problem facing this country, and the usual suspects oppose it by using the "race card." And who gives power to the "race card"? "Anti-racists," of course.
    Arizona Bill SB 1070 to Require Local Cops to Enforce Immigration Law - Page 2 - Stormfront

    In my opinion illegals have no rights under the US constitution. Just the fact they set foot on American soil makes them at the least trespassers. If not foreign invaders. In my state of Oklahoma any amount of force up to deadly force can be used to remove a trespasser. Which is a right of any Oklahoma citizen. Not just law enforcement. Read the laws I am sure most all states have about the same trespassing laws as Oklahoma.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cochise View Post
    The anti-Indian legislation is a fascist measure. It’s not surprising that it finds its primary support on the white supremacist forum Stormfront, where the rhetoric in favor of it is indistinguishable from that here.

    Arizona Bill SB 1070 to Require Local Cops to Enforce Immigration Law - Stormfront



    Arizona Bill SB 1070 to Require Local Cops to Enforce Immigration Law - Page 2 - Stormfront



    Ah more race baiting.

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