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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Good point, last time we had an election illegal aliens were lined up around the polling places to vote. They voted for Sheriff Joe, Russell Pearse, or Andrew Thomas.

    If people of color and minorities voted, we would not have right wingers in power.
    if only net tax payers could vote, the dems would not win any more presidential elections



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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Does your polling place ask for ID or even a voter ID card?
    When I lived in Georgia, I was never asked to show my ID, though I believe the Republicans (since they took over the state government after that Gerrymandering scandal the Dems pulled in 2001) have altered that little oversight, over strong Democrat objections
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Yeah, right after the advent of the conservative voting machine and hanging chad. Remember that one.
    You mean the hanging chad in a DEMOCRATIC district with a Supervisor of Elections who was a Democrat?
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if only net tax payers could vote, the dems would not win any more presidential elections
    If only the GOP had been representing the people instead of bending over for lobbiests, Obama would have been runnerup....
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    If only the GOP had been representing the people instead of bending over for lobbiests, Obama would have been runnerup....
    what people

    the net tax payers like me or the 47% who don't pay taxes and expect people such as me to pay for everything they want


    Obama got lots of breaks-from the financial meltdown to the pernicious infection of white guilt. My country club is full of rich white women who voted for Obama so they could tell themselves they really were not "racist" even though that guy stood for everything that is hostile to their lifestyles.
    I think your explaination of why this clown won the election is a bit simplistic and lobbyists had very little to do with it.



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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    THe problem is, legal hispanics often see attempts to get rid of illegals as "anti-hispanic" and too many politicians are afraid of that voting bloc
    I live in an area with lots of hispanics, and my experience is that many of them do not favor illegal immigration.
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I live in an area with lots of hispanics, and my experience is that many of them do not favor illegal immigration.
    probably true, but the ones who protest and howl the loudest are the ones the politicians cower to and those people (and some might be illegals) whine that cracking down on illegals is anti-hispanic

    and I will admit that some of the anti immigration movement is made up of people who have a bigoted or racist animus.



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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what people

    the net tax payers like me or the 47% who don't pay taxes and expect people such as me to pay for everything they want


    Obama got lots of breaks-from the financial meltdown to the pernicious infection of white guilt. My country club is full of rich white women who voted for Obama so they could tell themselves they really were not "racist" even though that guy stood for everything that is hostile to their lifestyles.
    I think your explaination of why this clown won the election is a bit simplistic and lobbyists had very little to do with it.
    Your country club?
    I have always voted GOP, but when this last election cycle started I was saying that the DEMS would win. Their are millions of middle class folk who usually vote republican, but they got tired of seeing crooks and perverts betray the public trust , too many of which are republicans. When their retirement funds take a hit and the financiers are still enriching themselves at the expense of the common folk, they remember who took their side and who sided with the obscenely rich.
    Wealth is fine, for those who earn it. But we have had too many people steal it....
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Oh noes!! If the cops have a reasonable suspicion that you've committed a crime, they can ask you about it! OMG that is so horrible and now the state will fall apart because.... because.... cops are allowed to ask for your ****ing id!


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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    This is simply about enforcing current laws. After decades of federal government inaction and misguided policies, it is time to hold accountable those who have no respect for United States' laws.
    Then PRESSURE the US Gov't to do their job. The last five presidential administrations have failed to do this. I work in law enforcement and to get a response from ICE is like pulling teeth. This is not a State function this is a Federal function. The state of AZ should NOT be paying its officers to enforce immigration laws, the FEDERAL Gov't should.

    I don't want illegal aliens in AZ, in fact I want them gone, STOPPED at the BORDER. I don't want agencies with Bigoted intents, e.g. Sheriff Joe and Maricopa County Sheriff's Office to enforce this law because they racial profile, and are under current federal investigation for these abuses.

    The law states "Allows a law enforcement officer, without a warrant, to arrest a person if the officer has probable cause to believe that the person has committed any public offense that makes the person removable from the U.S." SB1070 - 492R - Senate Fact Sheet

    Define what makes the person removable, would that be looking latino, speaking with an accent, being in a latino area, speaking spanish?

    So, if me, who is latino, who paid over 25k in taxes, who served my country in the military,who was born in Prescott, AZ, whose family was born in Arizona and Texas, walks down the street in a latino part of Phoenix, AZ and chooses to dress in a quamvera and baggy pants, and chooses to speak spanish to each other, not to anyone else, can have a police officer, come up to me an ask me for an ID to prove my citizenship. This is the fear of the latino community. Who then enforces my rights to privacy?

    Some will say that if I am here legally I have nothing to worry about, my response is if they were checking every anglo on the street to see if they were here legally, the anglo community would be up in arms.
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