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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Show me where the States can racially profile and pass federal laws.
    The law doesn't explicitly racially profile. You can be illegally in the country if you are from Mexico or if you are from Norway. Also, the law only affects Arizona, so it is a state law, not a federal law.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Right, because the illegal alien horde is a great voting demographic for the dems.
    Good point, last time we had an election illegal aliens were lined up around the polling places to vote. They voted for Sheriff Joe, Russell Pearse, or Andrew Thomas.

    If people of color and minorities voted, we would not have right wingers in power.
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Really, backbone = passing laws that allow racial profiling and violations of us citizens rights. Also, when did the states become responsible for enforcing federal law. Yeah, politicians in arizona have guts stepping all over our civil rights, like a sheriff and ex county attorney who are under federal investigation for racial profiling, and for police harassment.

    Arizona State Officials are spineless and were afraid to pressure Clinton, Bush, and Obama on fixing illegal immigration. God forbid the two loud mouth Senators Kyle and McCain pressuring the feds for some action.

    These legislators and governer with backbone will have their law review by the Obama administration see line Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signs immigration bill - latimes.com.

    Before we know it, all state and county government will be under federal investigation for all the back bone going on in AZ.
    This is simply about enforcing current laws. After decades of federal government inaction and misguided policies, it is time to hold accountable those who have no respect for United States' laws.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    This ain't about the cost of education or medical. It is about the lack of both parties in congress the GOP and Dem's doing something about this issue, so the states have to react. Unfortunately, AZ has ignorant law makers and a sheriff. This will come back to bite them on their ass. So, you think all illegals are from Mexico. Hey what about africans, chinese, and canadians. This is a piece of **** bill, and will cost AZ more. I hope the voters of our state get out and vote these idiots out of office.
    I didn't see anything in the bill pointing out one particular group of people. It points to "illegals"

    So you being in Az like I am. What is your solution to the "illegal" problem?
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    You're full of crap. Neopol. constantly pressure GW about this issue. Why is it AZ responsibility to protect the us border. I thought this was the USA responsibility.
    So when the Feds did nothing, what did she do? Now that she is in charge of Home land Security, What has she done to improve the border security?
    I agree that the feds should have the lead. The Feds have not done much. Maybe they will now.
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    It is an outrage that the Federal govt. has allowed such an important national policy of managing immigration, protecting sovereignty and security by allowing the number of illegals into the US from all our borders. Maybe this law will wake up the Feds to do something now.

    Legal immigrants and naturalized citizens should be proud of what they have accomplished in the US. Illegals are breaking existing federal law. It shows no respect for the US. No matter what the reason for coming to the US illegally. IMO they are criminals and at best trespassers.

    Play the race card all you want, it still does not make it right to come into a country illegally. I think everyone should step back, take a deep breath and see how the AZ law plays out. If it gets struck down, then all the fears are for naught. If it is upheld, lets see how law enforcement applies the law.

    IMO, it is beyond time for the US to do something to control all of our borders and manage legal immigration.
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Really, backbone = passing laws that allow racial profiling and violations of us citizens rights.
    If a bank is robbed and the employees call the police to report the crime and they discribe the robber as being a black male would it make any sense to stop white females?

    If 85% (example number) of illegal immigrants are of hispanic decent it only makes sense to start there.

    Now I am not up to par on current laws in AZ but in the state of TN where I am from it was already illegal not to carry state approved ID. (not that it was ever enforced)

    And why are you making such a issue of this? If I am stopped and checked occationaly to insure my legal status I am ok with it. I dont mind a little inconvenience if it helps better our country. After all its only a few minutes of my time.

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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Good point, last time we had an election illegal aliens were lined up around the polling places to vote. They voted for Sheriff Joe, Russell Pearse, or Andrew Thomas.

    If people of color and minorities voted, we would not have right wingers in power.
    If a person is legal to vote and don't, who's fault is that?
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    It is an outrage that the Federal govt. has allowed such an important national policy of managing immigration, protecting sovereignty and security by allowing the number of illegals into the US from all our borders. Maybe this law will wake up the Feds to do something now.
    I think the only thing the federal government would do is throw a bunch of money at the situation to not really do anything but make it look like they are doing something. Like the virtual fence and the national guard on the border with no authority to detain or arrest illegals.
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    Re: Ariz. governor signs immigration enforcement bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Crime is state issue.

    Try again Hatuey
    Actually, he is correct, texmaster. Immigration is a FEDERAL issue. That is the federal government has an immigration enforcement body and the states do not.

    Jan Brewer signed her own recall papers when she signed that bill.

    The SCOTUS will likely throw it out.... and when it does Arizona is going to have egg on its face.

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