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    Re: BBC: US weighs Iran military option

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Sure we do... we keep a totally insane government from acquiring nuclear weapons. To me that seems to be a worthwhile endeavor. Or would you rather wait to worry about it until after they’ve killed 15 or 20 million people?
    the target will be Israel. Israel has nukes on subs. Israeli subs will retaliate. you really think the deaths will be limited to 15 or 20 million people? we're talking about the potential glassing of significant chunks of the entire region.

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    Re: BBC: US weighs Iran military option

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    That sounds like a good way to get a lot of innocent people killed
    Freedom has its costs.

    Of course these kooks aren't killing innocents. Would never do that would they?

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    Re: BBC: US weighs Iran military option

    I'm getting a sneaking suspicion that to some people in this forum, an innocent Iranian woman or childrens life, has less value than an American woman or childrens life.

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    Re: BBC: US weighs Iran military option

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I'm getting a sneaking suspicion that to some people in this forum, an innocent Iranian woman or childrens life, has less value than an American woman or childrens life.
    You mean an innocent American woman or children's life... you put innocent with Iranian but not with American. Faux pas or on purpose?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: BBC: US weighs Iran military option

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You mean an innocent American woman or children's life... you put innocent with Iranian but not with American. Faux pas or on purpose?
    It wasn't on purpose, I meant to say they're both innocent. Niether deserve to die, and are equal as human beings. But I was merely wondering if anyone viewed the Iranian civilian as less of a person then the American one.

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    Re: BBC: US weighs Iran military option

    There isn't a need to kill innocent civilians. Targeting hardened nuclear facilities in the middle of nowhere with advance warning could easily result in no civilian loss of life at all. When Israel destroyed Saddam's reactor in the 80's, it didn't end up in full scale war and there was very little loss of life.

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    Re: BBC: US weighs Iran military option

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post

    the most incompetent leadership america has ever endured
    No, that would be the last administration, from who's ineptitude we continue to dig our way out from.

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    Re: BBC: US weighs Iran military option

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    You don't occupy them.... you blow them back into the stone age until they come to their senses and act like a responsible government.
    Where does one begin with that statement? Wow!

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    Re: BBC: US weighs Iran military option

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It wasn't on purpose, I meant to say they're both innocent. Niether deserve to die, and are equal as human beings. But I was merely wondering if anyone viewed the Iranian civilian as less of a person then the American one.
    Part of being a member of a nation is believing by virtue of that relationship you are worth more than human beings elsewhere.

    Originally Posted by Crunch
    You don't occupy them.... you blow them back into the stone age until they come to their senses and act like a responsible government.
    That would stop Iran from getting the nuke, but it would not help our terrorist problem.
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    Re: BBC: US weighs Iran military option

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It wasn't on purpose, I meant to say they're both innocent. Niether deserve to die, and are equal as human beings. But I was merely wondering if anyone viewed the Iranian civilian as less of a person then the American one.

    I don't view them as less of a person.

    However they don't mean as much to me as a generic American woman or child, because.... I'm an American, not an Iranian. They mean far less to me than almost any American I am actually acquainted with, let alone any friend or family of mine.

    If you hand me two buttons, and say that if I push one that a million Iranian civilians die; if I push the other one person I know dies; and you put a gun to my head and tell me to choose... do I have to say it? A million Iranians are going into the ground.

    Would I prefer that no Iranian noncombatants die? Yes.

    Would I rather that millions of Iranian civilians die, as opposed to millions of American or Israeli civillians? If it has to be one or the other, yes.

    Yes, I know I'm a nationalist. Hail I'm more than just a nationalist. My family means more to me than your family, because they're mine. People in my community mean more to me than people in your community, because I live here. My home state is more important to me than your home state. I can't care as much about people 7,000 miles across the planet that I don't know and who mostly hate my country anyway, as I care about people who share my language, culture, and national identity.

    Truth? MOST people actually feel that way, they just don't want to admit it.

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