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    Justices reject ban on animal cruelty videos

    I am always fascinated by cases that result in a large vote of both the liberal and the conservative justices. Alito was the only dissent here.

    I don't know what I think of the ruling.

    WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court struck down a federal law Tuesday aimed at banning videos that show graphic violence against animals, saying it violates the right to free speech.

    The justices, voting 8-1, threw out the criminal conviction of Robert Stevens of Pittsville, Va., who was sentenced to three years in prison for videos he made about pit bull fights.

    The law was enacted in 1999 to limit Internet sales of so-called crush videos, which appeal to a certain sexual fetish by showing women crushing to death small animals with their bare feet or high-heeled shoes.

    Justices reject ban on animal cruelty videos - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

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    Re: Justices reject ban on animal cruelty videos

    Well, I dont really know about the ruling. It's kinda messed up to film animal cruelty for pleasure.

    But hey you learn a new sexual fetish everyday

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    Re: Justices reject ban on animal cruelty videos

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Well, I dont really know about the ruling. It's kinda messed up to film animal cruelty for pleasure.

    But hey you learn a new sexual fetish everyday
    I know. Who gets off on that kind of crap?

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    Re: Justices reject ban on animal cruelty videos

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I know. Who gets off on that kind of crap?
    Some seriously sick buggers. It's sad really. Really sad.

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    Re: Justices reject ban on animal cruelty videos

    I haven't read the ruling and it is hard to see what the value of a "crush film" is but the law could have (perhaps) banned something like those outdoor shows where Terrible Ted Nugent arrows some stag with his trusty compound bow or Excalibur Crossbow President Bill Troubridge nails a trophy Moose in the Canadian wilderness. After all the PETA extremists think that showing a hunting film is no different than watching Maggie DeSade waste a hamster with her Jimmy Choos



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    Re: Justices reject ban on animal cruelty videos

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I haven't read the ruling and it is hard to see what the value of a "crush film" is but the law could have (perhaps) banned something like those outdoor shows where Terrible Ted Nugent arrows some stag with his trusty compound bow or Excalibur Crossbow President Bill Troubridge nails a trophy Moose in the Canadian wilderness. After all the PETA extremists think that showing a hunting film is no different than watching Maggie DeSade waste a hamster with her Jimmy Choos
    That is exactly what Roberts said. The article in the Washington Post said this:

    But the court said the legislation passed by Congress was far too broad. Anyone who "creates, sells or possesses a depiction of animal cruelty" for commercial gain can be imprisoned for up to five years. A depiction of cruelty was defined as one in which "a living animal is intentionally maimed, mutilated, tortured, wounded or killed."

    Roberts wrote that the definition was so loose that it could include all depictions of wounding or killing animals, even hunting videos or magazines.

    washingtonpost.com
    I agree. It's too broad. I'm interested to read Alito's dissent!

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    Re: Justices reject ban on animal cruelty videos

    Interesting conundrum indeed. I guess the only sensible way to deal with this is to leave the law intact and allow a judge to, you know, judge it on a case by case basis.....

    You know, a guy catching a fish or shooting a moose? sure. Thats hunting.
    A guy sticking a firecracker up a puppys butt?

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    Re: Justices reject ban on animal cruelty videos

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I am always fascinated by cases that result in a large vote of both the liberal and the conservative justices. Alito was the only dissent here.

    I don't know what I think of the ruling.
    I'd say anything beyond making them put a rating on the video, it's a free speech violation.
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    Re: Justices reject ban on animal cruelty videos

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'd say anything beyond making them put a rating on the video, it's a free speech violation.
    So whats the difference between this and normal animal cruelty? DOn't get me wrong, I'm not against hunting fishing etc, but I do have strong feelings against cruelty for cruelty sake...
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    Re: Justices reject ban on animal cruelty videos

    Yeah, I'm not sure you can ban it. But WTF sort of fetish is that!?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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