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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The choice is there and it's not that limited. There are about 50 different vegetables available in the produce section of your local grocery store. There are about 200 different fruits available in the US. Assortments of meat, fish, poultry. There are different milks and whole grains.

    You have choices. Start making good ones.
    Milk has 125 mgs of sodium per serving. And what nuts are we talking about?

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Milk has 125 mgs of sodium per serving. And what nuts are we talking about?
    I am partial to toasted pine nuts and blanched almonds in my yogurt.

    But remember, too, that some sodium isn't going to come out of your foods because it's naturally there. How do you propose sodium be taken out of milk?

    Almond Dream milk contains about 100mgs of sodium, btw.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    But remember, too, that some sodium isn't going to come out of your foods because it's naturally there. How do you propose sodium be taken out of milk?
    Obviously we need to regulate cows now too.
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Obviously we need to regulate cows now too.
    Well you know if they are part of the evil corporate food empire that is hell bent on dominating the world through passing on the diabeetus in salt, they should be regulated.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I am partial to toasted pine nuts and blanched almonds in my yogurt.



    Almond Dream milk contains about 100mgs of sodium, btw.
    Almond milk...BLEEEECH.

    But remember, too, that some sodium isn't going to come out of your foods because it's naturally there. How do you propose sodium be taken out of milk?
    I don't I'm for food manufactures not adding excessive amounts of sodium.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I never claimed any of those things are meals, but you knew that already. A combination of three pieces of fruit and a handful of nuts makes a pretty decent lunch.
    For who? Are you claiming that everyone has the same caloric requirements as you? You're on a diet, after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No. What does that have to do with anything?

    No. Again, what does that have to do with anything?
    It has everything to do with this thread. You are not in the socioeconomic bracket that I'm even talking about, so of course you can talk like it's so easy to make healthy changes.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No. Good choices like staying in school and studying a marketable skill make a huge difference. But again, that has little to do with anything in relation to this thread.
    And if you're a single parent, how do you make that happen? You're a conservative and I know you tend to be against entitlement programs. So tell me, how does a single parent with a low income job further their education and also spend money on higher quality food + spend more time on preparation of said food?

    I don't think you understand the full array of reasons of why people choose to eat unhealthy, fast food in today's world. There is a positive correlation between poverty and fast food consumption. Does that matter to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I'm not going to apologize for looking after my own health. In fact, I am advocating that everyone do the same.
    Straw man. I wasn't attacking you for looking after yourself. I was pointing out that you have fewer opportunity costs which is WHY you can spend 10 hours a week at the gym. You are not counted as being in the lower class.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No. The talk is about government involvement in issues it should not be involved in. The talk is about the government providing an unnatural advantage to the weak willed, the stupid, and the infirm by making decisions for them. The talk is about the government involving itself in business models of private corporations rather than letting the market decide what the model should be.
    I don't think we can make any headway in this discussion until you are willing to expand your scope and understanding for why people consume this kind of food. You're too busy seeing it as an issue of stupidity and placing blame on the individual when it's a holistic problem. Marketing shapes those choices.

    There are stupid people in every country, so why does yours have such a high obesity rate?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Not my argument.
    You said your problem is the government butting its nose in where it does not belong, but you have failed to demonstrate that's what's happening here. Is part of the government's job not to reasonably ensure public health/

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And as I said: if the food's got too much salt in it for you, choose a different food.
    Most processed foods have too much salt in them.

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    Because I think we are shallowing our gene pool by removing the consequences of personal irresponsible behavior.
    Oh I see. So you're in favor of allowing the obesity, heart disease, and diabetes epidemic to continue to your country's detriment?

    I care about my country having a healthy population. I guess that is the difference between you and I. That pretty much ends the debate then.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Well you know if they are part of the evil corporate food empire that is hell bent on dominating the world through passing on the diabeetus in salt, they should be regulated.
    You know, this is the kind of hyperpartisan behavior that prevents points like mine from being heard. I am not placing all the blame on the corporations. As I said, I'm in favor of a multi-pronged approach.

    Some regulations are good. It's not black and white. Just because the government is regulating a certain business behavior does not mean that there is some liberal whacko lobby out to get the big evil corporate powers.

    I'm a health professional and I see the benefits of this legislation.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Almond milk...BLEEEECH.
    I don't really like everything I eat either. But for someone with your troubles, almonds are one of the best things you could possibly be putting in your body. Almonds provide a good source of magnesium to mop up free radicals that are particularly damaging to the heart, they lower LDL cholesterol with decreases of 8-12% seen in as little as two weeks, and they provide a good source of proteins and plant sterols.

    If you eat them along with blueberries, the effects of both are cumulative.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I don't really like everything I eat either. But for someone with your troubles, almonds are one of the best things you could possibly be putting in your body. Almonds provide a good source of magnesium to mop up free radicals that are particularly damaging to the heart, they lower LDL cholesterol with decreases of 8-12% seen in as little as two weeks, and they provide a good source of proteins and plant sterols.

    If you eat them along with blueberries, the effects of both are cumulative.
    Oh I love almonds the nuts. I get the naked ones from Whole Foods. But almond milk, NU UH... milk comes from a cow not nuts!

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    As I stood in line to get my blood pressure taken at my school's health awareness fair I thought of this thread. While we may not agree if the government should do anything I think there is one point we all can agree on. Hopefully because of this story people will be more aware of what they put into their bodies and will start to eat healthier. I myself just spent 25 dollars at our school's farmer's market and got about 20 things.

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