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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    No, I've read them. Lots of caps, lots of ****s, lots of "give me liberty or give me death!!!!" Very dramatic, brought a tear to my eye.

    Add salt, if you don't like how it tates. The few times I end up with low-sodium chicken broth I add my own salt.
    You miss the point, are obviously oblivious to the role of government in our country as intended by the framers. Damn public education system... rolling out ignorant drone after ignorant drone.

    The ignorants are dangerous. When there's enough ignorants coupled with enough gullibles, like we had in the last election , we get the mess we have now.

    Is government going to bail out food mfg.'s for their killing profitable food lines? Probably not...

    Tell me... why is it government's business?

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If the choice is not there or extremely limited in the first place WTF is a person to do?
    My god, we have so many choices in this country when it comes to food, it's not even funny.
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    You miss the point, are obviously oblivious to the role of government in our country as intended by the framers. Damn public education system... rolling out ignorant drone after ignorant drone.

    The ignorants are dangerous. When there's enough ignorants coupled with enough gullibles, like we had in the last election , we get the mess we have now.

    Is government going to bail out food mfg.'s for their killing profitable food lines? Probably not...

    Tell me... why is it government's business?

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    If you're going to call me ignorant and insult my education, you might want to work on your grammar first. Just a thought.

    Post something that makes sense. Then we'll talk.
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post

    Is government going to bail out food mfg.'s for their killing profitable food lines? Probably not...

    Tell me... why is it government's business?

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    It is governments business because they are in cahoots with the table salt manufacturers and are long on the commodity market.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    The government shouldn't make the choice. However, they can help make the choice easier. If there is less salt in food to begin with, that means people have to add more if they want it. An active choice is going to attract a lot fewer people than a passive one.
    This isn't about choice:
    The Food and Drug Administration is planning an unprecedented effort to gradually reduce the salt consumed each day by Americans, saying that less sodium in everything from soup to nuts would prevent thousands of deaths from hypertension and heart disease.
    The government is doing this in an effort to control intake of salt as a means to reduce illness. That being the case, and since you support this move, why not have the government make food consumption choices for us?
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It is governments business because they are in cahoots with the table salt manufacturers and are long on the commodity market.
    LOL! That cracked me up.
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    This isn't about choice:


    The government is doing this in an effort to control intake of salt as a means to reduce illness. That being the case, and since you support this move, why not have the government make food consumption choices for us?
    Well of course it's not about choice. It's about sodium not being so present in everything that it's difficult to find something processed without it. This way, people have go out of their way to consume it. They still can. I imagine a lot less will though, because people are lazy. Hence, our obesity problem.
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    It sounds like you are a social darwinist, meaning no disrespect.
    Yes. I see no reason whatsoever to save people from themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Bad food is cheaper and so the lower classes will tend to eat it more. That's a socioeconomic issue.
    No, it's not. It's actually more expensive. Just the other day I made a meal from scratch that cost me a total of maybe $9. It fed me for 5 meals. (i.e., 5 servings for $9) Try doing that with Chef Boyardee. Or KFC.

    Oh, and it took about 15 minutes to prepare and 45 minutes to bake.


    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    We would not have an obesity epidemic if people were informed. The majority of Americans are not ignorant. Unless of course, Americans have a food addiction
    And you are incorrect. People take INFORMED risks on a daily basis. It's all a matter of what you are willing to risk. I don't think you could point to an adult in this country who doesn't know that too much salt is bad for them. Or too much fat is bad for them. Or too much sugar is bad for them. What they may not realize is how much they are consuming, but that information is readily available to them. At their fingertips. Every day.

    Also: As long as the elderly vote in mass number, government health care will always be here. I don't see that changing in my lifetime, do you?
    I can only hope, and do my best to make it so.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Those aren't meals. You still need X amount of calories per day. Cheap, industrial food is calorie rich and nutrient poor, which is why additives like sodium are put in in the first place, to make up for the lack of taste quality. Real food tastes good because it has essential nutrients.

    Fruit is not calorie dense at all. If I eat one apple, in 30 minutes or less I'm starving.
    I never claimed any of those things are meals, but you knew that already. A combination of three pieces of fruit and a handful of nuts makes a pretty decent lunch.

    Are you a single parent?
    No. What does that have to do with anything?

    Do you have multiple children?
    No. Again, what does that have to do with anything?

    Does your job pay you $7/hr or less?
    No. Good choices like staying in school and studying a marketable skill make a huge difference. But again, that has little to do with anything in relation to this thread.

    I'm guessing the answer is no because you can spend 10 hours a week at a gym.
    I'm not going to apologize for looking after my own health. In fact, I am advocating that everyone do the same.

    There is a lot of talk in this thread about government controlling your eating, who is talking about you not being allowed to eat a bag of oreoes? We're discussing limits on sodium additives in food. To my knowledge, the same foods would be available?
    No. The talk is about government involvement in issues it should not be involved in. The talk is about the government providing an unnatural advantage to the weak willed, the stupid, and the infirm by making decisions for them. The talk is about the government involving itself in business models of private corporations rather than letting the market decide what the model should be.

    The government controlling your eating would look more like the government increasing taxes on salt itself so that even consumers could not buy it and add it to their food.
    Not my argument.

    As was said earlier in the thread... it's impossible to take salt out of your food, but adding it is easy. This law gives people MORE choice, not LESS.
    And as I said: if the food's got too much salt in it for you, choose a different food.

    Why are you so against the multi-pronged approach?
    Because I think we are shallowing our gene pool by removing the consequences of personal irresponsible behavior.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If the choice is not there or extremely limited in the first place WTF is a person to do?
    The choice is there and it's not that limited. There are about 50 different vegetables available in the produce section of your local grocery store. There are about 200 different fruits available in the US. Assortments of meat, fish, poultry. There are different milks and whole grains.

    You have choices. Start making good ones.

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