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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman
    Orange: (now this one is a chore) 1 minute prep time to peel
    Every time I am hungry and eat an orange, I end up hungrier than I was before I ate the orange. Am I weird?

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    My question was serious. If you're concerned about what people consume, then why not have laws in place that specify how much one can consume. People know from reading the label how much sodium is in any given product, and obviously they can't be trusted to stick to a healthy diet, so why shouldn't the government step in and tell us all how much salt, fat, sugar, etc. we can have each day?
    I'm not about taking away their choice, just about making it easier to choose wisely.

    Plus, this zimmer character is very entertaining. If I stop now, who else will get him all riled up?

    For real though, howabout we get rid of subsidies for corn, wheat, and soy. Then we could both be happy. You'd have less government interference in the market and I'd have very expensive processed foods.
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Every time I am hungry and eat an orange, I end up hungrier than I was before I ate the orange. Am I weird?
    Yes. The orange thing is normal though.
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Then obviously we need government-provided diet monitors to establish diets for each individual.
    Well then get to work on that

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Every time I am hungry and eat an orange, I end up hungrier than I was before I ate the orange. Am I weird?
    I can see that happening. For some reason, citric acid increases metabolism in some people. It is entirely possible that a citrus fruit is never satisfying to you.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well then get to work on that
    That's not something I would support. I was just providing a helpful suggestion so those of you who think we need more government intervention in our food choices.
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Apple: 30 second preparation time to wash
    Banana: 15 second preparation time to peel
    Orange: (now this one is a chore) 1 minute prep time to peel
    Those aren't meals. You still need X amount of calories per day. Cheap, industrial food is calorie rich and nutrient poor, which is why additives like sodium are put in in the first place, to make up for the lack of taste quality. Real food tastes good because it has essential nutrients.

    Fruit is not calorie dense at all. If I eat one apple, in 30 minutes or less I'm starving.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I work 40+ hours a week and spend 10 hours a week at the gym and have a fairly active social life. Don't tell me it's not possible to make a low cost, nutritional meal happen because I know better.
    Are you a single parent? Do you have multiple children? Does your job pay you $7/hr or less? I'm guessing the answer is no because you can spend 10 hours a week at a gym.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I make it happen every day. It may not be what I want to eat, but it's going to be good for me. Like everyone else, sometimes I just want to eat a bag of oreos and a can of beefaroni. But I don't because I know that is the way to wind up having a chat with Wilford Brimley about the diabeetus. And no one finds a 300 pound man with missing leg riding a Hover-round chair attractive.
    There is a lot of talk in this thread about government controlling your eating, who is talking about you not being allowed to eat a bag of oreoes? We're discussing limits on sodium additives in food. To my knowledge, the same foods would be available?

    The government controlling your eating would look more like the government increasing taxes on salt itself so that even consumers could not buy it and add it to their food.

    As was said earlier in the thread... it's impossible to take salt out of your food, but adding it is easy. This law gives people MORE choice, not LESS.

    Dip your oreos in liquid sugar for all I care. It's your own body and your own damn choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    It's about decisions. People need to learn to make the good ones others need to stop trying to curb the consequences for them.
    Clearly the consumer choices angle is failing, and for multiple reasons. One is, as you said, people are ignorant; the other is that they don't care; the other is that, while they have choices, their choices are very limited.

    I think it's easy to paint it so black and white, but the holistic solution is to continue educating people about nutrition while creating incentives for corporations to stop adding toxic levels of sodium to foods.

    Why are you so against the multi-pronged approach?

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    I'm not about taking away their choice, just about making it easier to choose wisely.

    Plus, this zimmer character is very entertaining. If I stop now, who else will get him all riled up?

    For real though, howabout we get rid of subsidies for corn, wheat, and soy. Then we could both be happy. You'd have less government interference in the market and I'd have very expensive processed foods.
    Obviously people lack the capacity, will or desire to make wise choices, so don't you think the government should step in and make those choices for all of us? After all, it will lower medical costs, right?

    Subsidies is a discussion for another thread, and really has nothing to do with what we're talking about. If you'd like to start a thread on it, I'd be happy to discuss it there.
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Obviously people lack the capacity, will or desire to make wise choices, so don't you think the government should step in and make those choices for all of us? After all, it will lower medical costs, right?

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    If the choice is not there or extremely limited in the first place WTF is a person to do?

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Obviously people lack the capacity, will or desire to make wise choices, so don't you think the government should step in and make those choices for all of us? After all, it will lower medical costs, right?

    Subsidies is a discussion for another thread, and really has nothing to do with what we're talking about. If you'd like to start a thread on it, I'd be happy to discuss it there.
    The government shouldn't make the choice. However, they can help make the choice easier. If there is less salt in food to begin with, that means people have to add more if they want it. An active choice is going to attract a lot fewer people than a passive one.
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