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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post


    I'm not sure you've read my post yet. The government is not telling you as an individual how much salt you can consume. The government is telling businesses how much of a chemical they can put in, like they do for many other chemicals. You can always add more.
    Well, why not? if the concern is the health of Americans, why not have the government tell everyone how much they can consume? Makes sense, doesn't it?
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Well, why not? if the concern is the health of Americans, why not have the government tell everyone how much they can consume? Makes sense, doesn't it?
    ...plus, think of how many jobs we would create by hiring salt police!
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    The point is; previously more expensive goods are priced similar to processed foods. The substitution effect greatly reduces inelasticity.
    Can you explain what you mean by the bolded part?

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    It has seen recent success in the Tobacco market; one which is very much so inelastic. Fines are far too arbitrary for my taste.
    Although there are a lot of additives in food now which maximize pleasure response, I think you'd have a hard time comparing processed food to tobacco addiction. The reasons for inelasticity are different. Processed food consumption relates more to socioeconomic factors.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Well, why not? if the concern is the health of Americans, why not have the government tell everyone how much they can consume? Makes sense, doesn't it?
    No it really doesn't sense since it is not a cookie cutter recipe. Some people for what ever reason so require more salt in their diets. And if salt were to be regulated by the big bad gubbermint those people would still have the option adding the required salt.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post


    I'm not sure you've read my post yet. The government is not telling you as an individual how much salt you can consume. The government is telling businesses how much of a chemical they can put in, like they do for many other chemicals. You can always add more.
    Nice try... you haven't read my posts.
    Perhaps reading comprehension problems?

    The point is... I may like the food as they manufacture it, and after eating the cardboard version mandated by government... might never buy it again. IT IS NOT THEIR BUSINESS to mandate salt levels in food, especially for their intended reasons. I could understand it during a war and rationing, but we aren't at that point.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    ...plus, think of how many jobs we would create by hiring salt police!
    My question was serious. If you're concerned about what people consume, then why not have laws in place that specify how much one can consume. People know from reading the label how much sodium is in any given product, and obviously they can't be trusted to stick to a healthy diet, so why shouldn't the government step in and tell us all how much salt, fat, sugar, etc. we can have each day?
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    It's not just about the food items but the opportunity cost of making the food. Cooking takes time and people in lower socioeconomic levels usually can't make it happen. Fast food is just that: fast. The industrial food system is partly designed to decrease the amount of time required to stay at home so that the labor force is more mobile.
    Apple: 30 second preparation time to wash
    Banana: 15 second preparation time to peel
    Orange: (now this one is a chore) 1 minute prep time to peel

    All these things are very low cost, even in off season. Have nutritional value and are readily accessible.

    I work 40+ hours a week and spend 10 hours a week at the gym and have a fairly active social life. Don't tell me it's not possible to make a low cost, nutritional meal happen because I know better. I make it happen every day. It may not be what I want to eat, but it's going to be good for me. Like everyone else, sometimes I just want to eat a bag of oreos and a can of beefaroni. But I don't because I know that is the way to wind up having a chat with Wilford Brimley about the diabeetus. And no one finds a 300 pound man with missing leg riding a Hover-round chair attractive.

    It's about decisions. People need to learn to make the good ones others need to stop trying to curb the consequences for them. Darwin called...he wants gene selection to be natural again.

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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    No it really doesn't sense since it is not a cookie cutter recipe. Some people for what ever reason so require more salt in their diets. And if salt were to be regulated by the big bad gubbermint those people would still have the option adding the required salt.

    Then obviously we need government-provided diet monitors to establish diets for each individual.
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Nice try... you haven't read my posts.
    Perhaps reading comprehension problems?

    The point is... I may like the food as they manufacture it, and after eating the cardboard version mandated by government... might never buy it again. IT IS NOT THEIR BUSINESS, especially for their intended reasons.

    Let the market decide, not a few hundred **** heads in DC.

    Amazing how people are ignorant of how they lose liberty every day... but think it's OK for the beast in DC to run over them and their kid's lives.

    Does freedom mean anything to you?

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    No, I've read them. Lots of caps, lots of ****s, lots of "give me liberty or give me death!!!!" Very dramatic, brought a tear to my eye.

    Add salt, if you don't like how it tates. The few times I end up with low-sodium chicken broth I add my own salt.
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    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Can you explain what you mean by the bolded part?
    Lets say a packaged hot pocket cost $2 less than a 1 lb of chicken breast. As the cost increase on the hot pocket to the point where the prices of the two are similar, substitution will most definitely occur. The only case you can make is that people who purchase cheap goods are not good at cooking.

    Although there are a lot of additives in food now which maximize pleasure response, I think you'd have a hard time comparing processed food to tobacco addiction. The reasons for inelasticity are different. Processed food consumption relates more to socioeconomic factors.
    Which gives taxation another advantage. It is not as though you are taxing food, only processed food.

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