Page 17 of 30 FirstFirst ... 7151617181927 ... LastLast
Results 161 to 170 of 300

Thread: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

  1. #161
    Goddess of Bacon

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Charlottesville, VA
    Last Seen
    05-28-12 @ 09:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    13,988

    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    You described it, not me.

    If the public was truly "informed" such industries would not survive unless of course their product displayed some sort of additive property. "Ahhh it feels good!" applies in one way or another, even though you are making the claim that people are aware of the negative ramifications of continued consumption.

    So either you are describing addiction (demand regardless of risk) or people are not truly informed.
    That's not addiction.


    My answer????

    Whether you support it or not, the fast food industry (the prepared frozen section included) is generating billions of dollars, and uncle sam (regardless of political belief) is paying for a great deal of the side effects. Again.... Whether you agree with government or not, my bold statement holds true.

    Being as this has little if any effect on me, it is another one of those "who gives a ****" stories.

    The government could instead tax it....
    And apparently your answer is to have the government impose more regulations. Whereas my answer is to have the government do LESS. (including, less payments for health care)

  2. #162
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    virginia
    Last Seen
    04-01-13 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    16,881
    Blog Entries
    19

    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    As a fiscal conservative, I see no reason I should be paying for anyone elses healthcare regardless.
    It sounds like you are a social darwinist, meaning no disrespect.

  3. #163
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Last Seen
    12-26-10 @ 06:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    8,083

    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    I just want to say that I'm not universally in favor of more government regulation. There are some regulatory ideas that I think are just plain awful, but this one I support.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Sorry, man, but that's complete bull****. The food isn't what's killing people. It's the fact that most people won't take responsibility for what they put in their bodies. Having a can of condensed soup once in a while does not hurt you in the least. Having a slice of processed cheese every now and then does not hurt you in the least. Having a snack bag of doritos every now and then isn't going to cause a heart attack. A soda a week isn't going to give you hypertension or diabetes.
    I don't fully agree with your assessment. The percentage of daily values ranges greatly among food products. It's not simply a matter of not drinking 10 cans of pop a day. Each can of pop already contains an absurd level of sugar.

    Also, there are additives in foods that are derived from sodium, such as MSG and other flavoring agents, which don't always get tabulated into the percentage value listed on the bottle. I would also like to see legislation for standardization of naming conventions for food additives on packaging. MSG has something like 10 different names that can appear in the ingredients list. Not everyone spends hours a day on the net researching things. How is the average joe supposed to know what all the contents mean, and the interactions?

    I agree that excess is part of the problem, but people's educational resources are conflicting. The food industry routinely puts forth "studies" that validate the use of harmful additives in their foods. Even the daily food values chart that we all grew up with is skewed in favor of industry. It's hard for the average joe to know what is okay and what isn't since the media is giving out conflicting info. all the time. I respect that you and I know how to manage values, but this kind of regulation is for everyone.

    Also, I don't see what's wrong with a multi-pronged approach. Corporations should not be able to add sodium to their pre-packaged foods that are at harmful levels.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    What does cause heart attacks and diabetes is when the idiot notices his pants getting snug and keeps on making a meal out of doritos and soda. That's the problem. And that's not something the government should be getting involved with; that's a Darwin issue.
    Bad food is cheaper and so the lower classes will tend to eat it more. That's a socioeconomic issue.

    In the health arena, I could really care less what is "bad for business". What is "good for business" is often bad for public health. There has to be a happy medium, and I think limiting sodium content is not that outrageous.

    If you want to add more salt to your food, then do it. This law is about trying to reduce comorbid factors for heart disease, a condition which is epidemic in the U.S. It has to be attacked from all angles, not just the consumer choices angle.

  4. #164
    I'm not-low all the time
    Kushinator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    West Loop
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:09 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    16,254

    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    That's not addiction.
    Ok Ok Ok.... Call it a "dedicated market base".

    And apparently your answer is to have the government impose more regulations. Whereas my answer is to have the government do LESS. (including, less payments for health care)
    My answer again lol. My answer is a bit more complex than, "i do what i want". Whether or not you agree with government health care, it does exist and you are powerless to do anything about it. Therefore.... (this is important) Taxpayers will in fact foot the bill. Therefore "their choices" will spill over into my life.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

  5. #165
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Theoretical Physics Lab
    Last Seen
    01-06-15 @ 11:06 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    25,120

    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Even as a libertarian, this is one thing that I (and I hope other libertarians) would hope to support. The truth is that the unhealthy products on your store shelves really don't have the transparency people want them to have. And on a bigger note, the hidden un-health aspect of it creates a negative externality that I doubt anyone could put an exact number on, but would be massive. It'd be the same with mandatory vaccinations for communicable diseases having massive spillover benefits.

    While I don't believe in dictating what people do in their lives in general, we do have an obesity pandemic in this nation, and sometimes you have to treat people like ignorant little children. Allowing this to continue is akin to letting your small child burn his fingers on the oven and not letting him know not to do it. If he's too stupid to keep his fingers off the oven, you have to physically restrain him.

    This is why I'm more in favor of an "intellectual libertarianism" or "elite libertarianism". Sometimes you have to protect the bereft of brain. Giving them full freedom is essentially giving them the rope and the tree. If people round up in Wal-Mart like cattle and intentionally pick all these God-awful foods that end up making them fat and unhealthy, causing problems in other areas like health care, public welfare, etc. then they need to have their hand slapped and told "no". Those who know better have an innate duty to the ones who don't know, especially if it ends up costing them both in the long run.

    I hate it being that way, but until we wake up as a whole, it's the way it should be done. I'm not going to sit back and "hope they do the right thing" while they make themselves an indirect burden on me.

  6. #166
    Why so serious?

    Moon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Washington State
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    4,291

    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Oh for the love, stop being difficult.
    But it's fun.
    "I believe in a Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."

    --Albert Einstein, 1929

  7. #167
    Educating the Ignorant
    zimmer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:20 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    14,419
    Blog Entries
    12

    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Cause I was making a joke about how hard it is to take salt out and immediately follows the prickly responses. Don't worry, I won't hold it against you this time.

    I don't think any American is in danger even if the government cuts down on the amount allowed in processed food.
    You miss the entire point, and that makes some of us go far beyond prickly.

    WE ARE IN DANGER... we are losing our the few freedoms we have... we have and continue to lose liberty... government is coming in everywhere like toxic mold on a mission.

    If you want someone to control your life because you or others are too feeble to control your own behavior... then you and your drones call me... I'll run your life for ya. See how you like that.

    Jeezuz... what a bunch of losers... really. Looking to Mommy Dearest DC for every damn solution to their lives.

    Sad and irritating.

    .
    Last edited by zimmer; 04-21-10 at 06:43 PM.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

  8. #168
    I'm not-low all the time
    Kushinator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    West Loop
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:09 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    16,254

    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Just tax it properly and be done. Better labeling would also be quite helpful.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

  9. #169
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Last Seen
    12-26-10 @ 06:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    8,083

    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Just tax it properly and be done. Better labeling would also be quite helpful.
    No... taxation would simply transfer the burden to the consumer, and the corporate behavior would not change. The companies should receive fines instead.

  10. #170
    Goddess of Bacon

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Charlottesville, VA
    Last Seen
    05-28-12 @ 09:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    13,988

    Re: FDA plans to limit amount of salt allowed in processed foods for health reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Ok Ok Ok.... Call it a "dedicated market base".
    It's just people doing what they want to do. People take risks every day of their lives. Taking a risk doesn't mean that one isn't informed.

    My answer again lol. My answer is a bit more complex than, "i do what i want". Whether or not you agree with government health care, it does exist and you are powerless to do anything about it. Therefore.... (this is important) Taxpayers will in fact foot the bill. Therefore "their choices" will spill over into my life.
    I am not powerless. I vote, I write congressmen, I keep informed. It may exist now, but my hope is that it will not always be so.

Page 17 of 30 FirstFirst ... 7151617181927 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •