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Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

Iran wouldn't hit us even if they could. They'd hit isreal and if they retaliated in kind Russia would nuke isreal and we would have to nuke russia. If we did that they would retaliate in kind. So yea, Iran not getting a nuke is very important.

Yes thats exactly how its going to happen.
 
Iran wouldn't hit us even if they could. They'd hit isreal and if they retaliated in kind Russia would nuke isreal and we would have to nuke russia. If we did that they would retaliate in kind. So yea, Iran not getting a nuke is very important.

Russia isn't going to destroy itself over a half-assed partner like Iran. They sell weapons to Iran and share a goal in reducing U.S. influence in the ME, but they aren't to risk their entire nation for them. For that matter, the U.S. leaders would have to be idiots to attack Russia regardless of what happens to Israel. Worst case scenario, Iran and Israel nuke each other.
 
Meh. Let them launch. It would solve all our problems. But the threat will never be about an improbable launch.
 
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FOXNews.com - Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015



So while Russia is signing non-proliferation and disarmament agreements with the U.S., are they also working closely with Iran to make them a capable threat to the U.S. at the same time?

If we don't do something soon, this won't end well.

I guess Fox News (in the interest of keeping you afraid of your own shadow and the black President) neglected to tell you that since we now have airfields in Iraq, the Iranian nuclear facilities can be easily monitored and reduced to rubble without too much effort.
 
If they believe half of the rhetoric they spout, they may not care.

Have you not heard Mahmood Isinajihad talking about how he is perfectly content for Iran to perish as a nation and a people, if the conflagration brings on the 12th Mahdi?

People who support 11 year old boys and 18 girls strapping on 20 pounds of C4 and blowing up a bunch of American infantry or IDF soldiers probably aren't going to worry about getting nuked into next Christmas if they can put a big hurt on the "Great Satan"
 
What evidence do you have that Russia is providing such technology? All known Iranian missiles are based off North Korean designs or home built.

It's an established fact that the Iranians are buying nuclear technology from Iran.
 
Is that a suggestion that the Iranian regime is as rational as the US government? If so, I suggest you seek further information on Mahmood Isinajihad and the Mullahs. They're nuts.

Yeah, so nuts they ask for corporate style cost vs benefit analysis in deciding what projects to fund. :2wave:

As for the rest of you, care to give me a single historical example where the Mullahs risked their own necks rather then sending someone else to die in their place?

*commence the sound of people running away*
 
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It's an established fact that the Iranians are buying nuclear technology from Iran.

They're buying nuclear technology from themselves?

If it's for themselves, why not give it for free?
 
People who support 11 year old boys and 18 girls strapping on 20 pounds of C4 and blowing up a bunch of American infantry or IDF soldiers probably aren't going to worry about getting nuked into next Christmas if they can put a big hurt on the "Great Satan"

The difference between using child soldiers, which happened over 20 years ago, and getting nuked is that one doesn't get you killed and doesn't take you outta power, while the other does.

Also for all those bitching about the US-Russian nuclear arms treaty, think of this. We are removing 1550 of their nukes, and even if Russia is helping Iran build nukes thats NOT going to replace that threat. Iran is not going to build 1550 nuclear weapons, they can use a couple as a threat but 1550 is just excessive for that purpose.
 
Then I can only speculate that you have not been paying close attention.

I guess you have a source that explains your opinion
 
People who support 11 year old boys and 18 girls strapping on 20 pounds of C4 and blowing up a bunch of American infantry or IDF soldiers probably aren't going to worry about getting nuked into next Christmas if they can put a big hurt on the "Great Satan"

Notice that the ones who scream for Jihad, aren't the ones actually fighting it?
 
FOXNews.com - Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015



So while Russia is signing non-proliferation and disarmament agreements with the U.S., are they also working closely with Iran to make them a capable threat to the U.S. at the same time?

If we don't do something soon, this won't end well.

I help you out.... from a biblical perspective, man's dominion of the earth does not end well. It is inevitable..... but it doesn't have to end now.

That all said, the first step to control arms amongst the non-nuke countries is for the "responsible" nuclear countries to recognize the inevitable outcome of continuing to arm, and the pressures that puts on the non-nuclears to need to arm to survive. The first step of controlling the situation is a non-proliferation treaty and a step down..... this has been a consistent vision of every US President from Truman to Clinton except for the guy in the early part of this decade, and especially including that conservative icon (who would never get the nomination in 2012), Ronald Reagan.

There is absolutely no reason to have more than 1500 nukes. #1501 and #1502 buys you very little in terms of power brokering. OTH, standing down could buy you world cooperation, or at least closer cooperation amongst the superpowers. Russia no more wants loose nukes or Iran to have nukes than we do. They have a number for threats to their sovereignty, including muslim influence.

So we are doing something. What did you have in mind?
 
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Is that a suggestion that the Iranian regime is as rational as the US government? If so, I suggest you seek further information on Mahmood Isinajihad and the Mullahs. They're nuts.

We're provoking crazy nationalistic theocrats who will eventually have nukes no matter what we do. Great. Why not quietly develop countermeasures and better security?
 
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The 12th Imam: Why Is This Especially Important Now?
While Christians look for Jesus’ 2nd coming, the Jews await the Messiah and Muslims await the 12th Imam. However, of the three, Allah’s designated Mahdi is the only one who demands a violent path to conquer the world. Mr. Ahmadinejad, and his cabinet, say they have a ‘signed contract’ with al Mahdi in which they pledge themselves to his work. What does this work involve? In light of concerns over Iran’s nuclear capabilities, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has reportedly stated Israel should be wiped off the map. He spoke to the United Nations in September ’05. During that speech he claims to have been in an aura of light and felt a change in the atmosphere during which time no one present could blink their eyes. Iran’s PM is also said to have spoken in apocalyptic terms and seems to relish conflict with the West whom he calls the Great Satan. This is while he proclaims he must prepare the world for the coming Mahdi by way of a world totally under Muslim control. He is working hard to bring about the world-wide horrors that must be in place for their al Mahdi to bring peace.

This notion and goal, along with a violent hatred of infidels, America and Israel reminds us of Biblical prophecies of the coming anti-Christ and the pledges of millions to a deceiving False Messiah who will claim to bring peace. Could this 12th Imam Mahdi and his servant Ahmadinejad spark the last days of the coming true Savior?

More here.... 12th Imam
 
I guess Fox News (in the interest of keeping you afraid of your own shadow and the black President) neglected to tell you that since we now have airfields in Iraq, the Iranian nuclear facilities can be easily monitored and reduced to rubble without too much effort.

The Israeli Air Force already has the mission planned out to the last detail, I'm sure.
 
We're provoking crazy nationalistic theocrats who will eventually have nukes no matter what we do. Great. Why not quietly develop countermeasures and better security?

another measure would be rapprochement

the iranian people would welcome this

the current iranian leadership, less so

if the government is no longer able to blame all of its ills on the 'great satan' then it will stand exposed
 
In the 1930s the U.S. made plans to invade Canada just in case it became necessary. You can bet we have accounted for slightly more likely scenarios as well.
 
The US Air Force plan is probably "Israel's got this"

As posted above, we literally have a plan to invade Canada. Our military guys do this all day. We've been rattling sabers with Iran for ages, you really think nobody has planned out an airstrike package for every Iranian military installation, communications facility, and key piece of infrastructure?
 
As posted above, we literally have a plan to invade Canada. Our military guys do this all day. We've been rattling sabers with Iran for ages, you really think nobody has planned out an airstrike package for every Iranian military installation, communications facility, and key piece of infrastructure?

Why would we want to invade our friends to the North?
 
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