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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Why would Iran give a missile to Venezuela?? How would that be a benefit to Iran?
    Profit from weapons sales?

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Profit from weapons sales?
    Is Chavez looking to get spanked?
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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    No effective policy on Iran, Gates says

    his OWN DEFENSE SECTY!

    utterly incompetent foreign policy, no adult has ever seen the like

    it's humiliating

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Is Chavez looking to get spanked?
    By whom, Obama. You are kidding right.

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Why would Iran give a missile to Venezuela?? How would that be a benefit to Iran?
    It would draw attention away from sanctions against them... and seriously piss off the U.S.


    That's because there's a lag time of several hours between the launch of a nuclear weapon and it's hitting the target. In that time, the retaliatory strike can be launched. What would be the point of winning a war if there's an 80% loss of your people and the annihilation of all the important infrastructure of your country??

    So, yes... it's retarded to say : He has nukes so we must invade... especially if the person is REALLY as crazy as he's sold in the media (true for both Iraq and Iran), because if the person REALLY does have the weapons and you invade, then this 'crazed dictator' will unleash all the fury they can muster before being killed.
    It wouldn't take several hours if the Iranians launched a missile off our coast from a cargo ship. There is evidence that Iran has been developing and testing ship launched missile capability.

    A relatively small nuclear weapon exploded in the atmosphere over the U.S. would cripple the country. A nuclear weapon exploded over the United States would cripple our electrical system, computer systems, and transportation. Everything that operates with microchips, which is everything, would no longer work. Within a few weeks, there would be no food or water distribution.

    If you want to have nightmares for a few weeks, read the EMP Commission Report.

    This is why we can't allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. A small weapon could be easily launched by the Iranians and would leave almost no fingerprints leading back to them. They could cripple us with little chance of reprisal.

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Past precedent, for one. Iran knows who butters its bread, and Russia's been doing it for a couple decades. Why do you think they have a ton of Russian aircraft?
    Actually they have a ton of Russian aircraft from the Iran-Iraq War when many Iraqi pilots flew to Iran and surrendered. The Iranians stayed with the aircraft after they let go the Iraqi pilots.

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    It would draw attention away from sanctions against them... and seriously piss off the U.S.
    Wouldn't sanctions alone be an act of war against Iran??

    It wouldn't take several hours if the Iranians launched a missile off our coast from a cargo ship. There is evidence that Iran has been developing and testing ship launched missile capability.
    I'd say that couldn't happen with the millitaries capacity to find and track ships off america's coasts... but with all the routes left open for the drug traffickers I'm not so sure that'd be true.

    A relatively small nuclear weapon exploded in the atmosphere over the U.S. would cripple the country. A nuclear weapon exploded over the United States would cripple our electrical system, computer systems, and transportation. Everything that operates with microchips, which is everything, would no longer work. Within a few weeks, there would be no food or water distribution.

    If you want to have nightmares for a few weeks, read the EMP Commission Report.
    Ya, an EMP would cripple the area of the country that is affected under such a circumstance... what would be the area of effect of an EMP?? I mean, are we talking about an area of the downtown of a city? the greater area of the city? The greater part of the state? Or a large portion of the country?

    This is why we can't allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. A small weapon could be easily launched by the Iranians and would leave almost no fingerprints leading back to them. They could cripple us with little chance of reprisal.
    Or, we could stop instigating fights with them... I'm just saying, Iran has been around for thousands of years, and have suffered many attempts at invasion without ever losing an inch of territory. They will be better armed and trained then the Iraqi army, and any ground forces would see such tremendous losses that the ONLY way that a war with Iran is won is by nuking them.

    There are several analysts that are saying that ANY offensive against Iran would signal the start of world war 3.

    Just a suggestion, try actually reading the scripts of Ahmenijad's speech's (especially the ones that have been most demonized in western media)... and tell me if you still think he's such a crazed dictatos. (Note: I AM NOT saying that ahminijad, or saddam for that matter, were anything of 'good guys'... simply NOT as evil as they are being presented)

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Wouldn't sanctions alone be an act of war against Iran??



    I'd say that couldn't happen with the millitaries capacity to find and track ships off america's coasts... but with all the routes left open for the drug traffickers I'm not so sure that'd be true.



    Ya, an EMP would cripple the area of the country that is affected under such a circumstance... what would be the area of effect of an EMP?? I mean, are we talking about an area of the downtown of a city? the greater area of the city? The greater part of the state? Or a large portion of the country?



    Or, we could stop instigating fights with them... I'm just saying, Iran has been around for thousands of years, and have suffered many attempts at invasion without ever losing an inch of territory. They will be better armed and trained then the Iraqi army, and any ground forces would see such tremendous losses that the ONLY way that a war with Iran is won is by nuking them.

    There are several analysts that are saying that ANY offensive against Iran would signal the start of world war 3.

    Just a suggestion, try actually reading the scripts of Ahmenijad's speech's (especially the ones that have been most demonized in western media)... and tell me if you still think he's such a crazed dictatos. (Note: I AM NOT saying that ahminijad, or saddam for that matter, were anything of 'good guys'... simply NOT as evil as they are being presented)
    The size of the area affected would depend on the size of the weapon and the height of its detonation. I would have to read the report again but I believe a relatively small nuclear device detonated at least 60 km above the surface in the middle of the country would disable a good portion of the midwest. The EMP Report has maps with different scenarios in it.

    I doubt the military would pay that much attention to a cargo ship that was properly flagged and logged. They could easily launch from 50 to 100 miles from our shore.

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Oh nobody in particular... now, this was off a quick search for front page youtube vids from news sources and a quick search for "Iran war" with google news... if you really want I could poke around deeper, but let's not be delusional.
    You do know that "going to war with Iran" isn't all necessarily the same as "invading and occuyping Iran", right?

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You do know that "going to war with Iran" isn't all necessarily the same as "invading and occuyping Iran", right?
    yep, and i hope you appreciate that such a war is very likely to disrupt the world's economy due to the resulting uncertainty about the availability of oil
    is keeping nuclear weapons out of iranian hands worth it?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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