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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

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    You don't have proof of that, come on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    Partisan bigotry at its finest.
    Tom Ridge: I Was Pressured To Raise Terror Alert To Help Bush Win
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    pushed to raise the security alert on the eve of President Bush's re-election, something he saw as politically motivated and worth resigning over.
    If life gives you Melons you probably have dyslexia.

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    Tom Ridge: I Was Pressured To Raise Terror Alert To Help Bush Win
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    pushed to raise the security alert on the eve of President Bush's re-election, something he saw as politically motivated and worth resigning over.
    Well... if the Huffy Post says it then it must be true. After all, they don't hold any grudges against conservatives and Republicans.

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Well... if the Huffy Post says it then it must be true. After all, they don't hold any grudges against conservatives and Republicans.
    The quote is from Tom Ridge's book. He was appointed by Bush as head of HS. He is a Republican.
    If life gives you Melons you probably have dyslexia.

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    The quote is from Tom Ridge's book. He was appointed by Bush as head of HS. He is a Republican.
    I'm very aware who Tom Ridge is.

    The quote was taken out of context, unsurprisingly based on the source.

    Tom Ridge clarified the comments in the book:

    Former Homeland Security secretary Tom Ridge, speaking for the first time about accusations made in his new book, says he did not mean to suggest that other top Bush administration officials were playing politics with the nation's security before the 2004 presidential election.

    "I'm not second-guessing my colleagues," Ridge said in an interview about The Test of Our Times, which comes out Tuesday and recounts his experiences as head of the nation's homeland security efforts in the first several years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'm very aware who Tom Ridge is.

    The quote was taken out of context, unsurprisingly based on the source.

    Tom Ridge clarified the comments in the book:
    He either said it or he didn't.

    Which is it?
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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    He either said it or he didn't.

    Which is it?
    According to the quote I posted, he claims he didn't.

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    how 'bout what OBAMA'S DEFENSE SECTY said?

    No effective policy on Iran, Gates says

    embarrassing

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    Tom Ridge: I Was Pressured To Raise Terror Alert To Help Bush Win
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    pushed to raise the security alert on the eve of President Bush's re-election, something he saw as politically motivated and worth resigning over.
    Interesting link, as it says:

    UPDATE: Former Bush administration officials are vehemently denying Ridge's statements.

    "We went over backwards repeatedly and with great discipline to make sure politics did not influence any national security and homeland security decisions," former White House chief of staff Andy Card told Politico. "The clear instructions were to make sure politics never influenced anything."

    "Under no circumstance was Tom Ridge or anyone else directed to change the threat level," former homeland security adviser Frances Townsend said. "It didn't work that way, and it certainly didn't work that way in 2004. It was always an apolitical process."
    Not sure how this makes whatever point you were trying to make...

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Interesting link, as it says:



    Not sure how this makes whatever point you were trying to make...
    Shhh, don't let facts spoil his fun.

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    Re: Iranian Missile May Be Able to Hit U.S. by 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'm very aware who Tom Ridge is.

    The quote was taken out of context, unsurprisingly based on the source.

    Tom Ridge clarified the comments in the book:
    so, did he lie in the book or after the book was published:
    In his new book, the first Homeland Security chief, Tom Ridge, accuses top aides to President George W. Bush of pressing him to raise the terror alert level to influence the 2004 presidential election.

    Ridge, a former Republican governor of Pennsylvania, says that he refused the entreaty just before the election from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Attorney General John Ashcroft, according to a summary of the book from publisher Thomas Dunne Books.

    "After that episode, I knew I had to follow through with my plans to leave the federal government for the private sector," Ridge, who resigned soon after the election where Bush defeated Democrat John F. Kerry, writes in "The Test of Our Times: America Under Siege ... And How We Can Be Safe Again."
    New Coward Confirms it: Republicans Politicized Terrorism! - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine
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