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Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

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Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia - CNN.com

Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

They say that they are "angry" and that teir specific fear: " Americans' right to bear arms under the Second Amendment will be taken away."

They also claim that thay are not happy with "the direction the government's going in right now, and I believe that our Second Amendment rights are in trouble, "

Would someone who believes these peopel show the rest of us specific examples that our 2nd amenedment rights are going to be "taken away".

Also are these people just telling the big lie and hoping that no one will question it ?
 
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Well lets see what has happened over the last 50 or so years

In 1934 FDR thought placing an onerous tax on machine guns would get rid of the prohibition era gangs. He used the commerce clause to accomplish this unconstitutional bit of nonsense

in 1968 we had the GCA of 68. It banned mail order guns, it prevented me, someone who lives 15 minutes from KY from buying a handgun there, and it set forth recordkeeping of gun purchases. You also had to show IDs to get ammo though that was rescinded later on.


In 1986, in a violation of the senate rules etc Dem gun hater Congressman Hughes tried to derail the McClure Voker FOPA by attaching a ban on the ownership of any automatic weapon made after may 19, 1986 even though there had never been a case since the 1934 act of a machine gun legally owned being used in a crime save for a dayton cop killing someone with an uzi

In 1993 the dems with clinton passed the brady bill. Though part of it was stricken (mandates on the states) it forced waiting periods on people thus engaging in prior restraint

Then came the idiotic Clinton gun ban that banned the sale of scary looking guns and magazines that carried more than 10 rounds

Other proposals dems have floated included a punitive "arsenal tax" on anyone owning more than a thousand rounds (two weeks of practice for a serious shooter) or 20 guns, bans on all semi autos, bans on all handguns, bans on certain calibers , etc.

Yeah gun owners are paranoid--the dems never have any desire to infringe on our rights
 
I can't remember anything significant being said by the Obama administration on the issue. I'm not aware of any plans when it comes to gun control. It's being left up to the states, where it should be.
 
I can't remember anything significant being said by the Obama administration on the issue. I'm not aware of any plans when it comes to gun control. It's being left up to the states, where it should be.

That is due to political reality and expedience.
 
Fact is that gun laws nation wide have only gotten less strict since Obama has taken office, and neither he or anyone in his administration has said a word about changing that trend.
 
Just because Obama has not spoke about it; their is plenty from his past in Chicago that state there is not a Gun Control law he does'nt like, But as stated above it is not politically expediant at this time to try to demonize Gun Owners, and you know if they could they would try to reinstate a much more draconian Brady Bill if they (Democrats) would. Remember the Ill. Sportsman club I believe that was there name were threatened court action for their Ad against Obama and his voting record. And alot of the loosening of Gun Laws in the states is do to Heller Decision and the Real Data being collected shows that most Gun Laws do not have anything with reducing gun violence, I believe that criminals are criminals for a reason they don't obey laws anyway, so most gun laws only hurt law-abiding citizens. also look at this administration's war of words about the Mexican border murders, they are claiming that the guns were all from the U.S. which over 90% were from defecting mexican army solidiers, But remember the Liberal Slogan Tell a Lie enough times people start believing it.
 
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"I don't have any evidence that Obama wants to take my guns BUT HE WANTS TO!"

really?

so you think Obama is a liar?

he supported a complete ban on handguns when he was a state legislator

he supported reinstating the Clinton Gun ban when he was a federal senator

He supported a complete ban on semi autos

so tell me-was he lying then or is he just a coward now?

Biden voted for every anti gun bill that came before him in the senate

he was a major architech of the clinton gun ban and said it was a "good first step"

so tell me, has he changed?
 
Fact is that gun laws nation wide have only gotten less strict since Obama has taken office, and neither he or anyone in his administration has said a word about changing that trend.

Oh do tell what has become less strict federally since Obama took office

I would love to hear that


Do you think Sotomayor would vote alongside Bush's two appointments on a gun issue?
 
They say that they are "angry" and that teir specific fear: " Americans' right to bear arms under the Second Amendment will be taken away."

They've been saying that since Nov. 2008. I know people who spent all the money they had at the time to stock up on ammo, buy and hide as many guns as they could... :( Have federal gun laws changed in the last 18mos?? Nope.

They also claim that thay are not happy with "the direction the government's going in right now, and I believe that our Second Amendment rights are in trouble, "

Right, the "they're coming for your guns" paranoia...

We can thank Glen Beck for this type of stupidity.

I think it's funny that their guns were unloaded -- very symbolic of their impotent rage.

The one's who protested in DC chose not to carry guns at all -- ******s.:roll:

Also, I have to say that fat people look funny in camouflage fatigues--in a ridiculous non-threatening sort of way. They look like big green salads walking around with gun belts stretched around their wastes... Fat men should take a lesson from fat college girls and stick to dark blue/black solids that hide their girth.;)
 
Having studied the ARC for over 30 years, I have noted that one of the tactics of this group is to constantly hurl the term paranoid at those who call out the schemes of the ARC

Yet facts exist proving that no one is paranoid. Britain registered handguns and then banned the entire lot of them based on ONE NUT killing kids at Dunblaine in 1997. Florio banned thousands of semi auto rifles in NJ after dems pushed for registration (replete with promises that the registration would never be used for confiscation)

California and NYC also used registration lists for confiscation as did Australia
 
Having studied the ARC for over 30 years, I have noted that one of the tactics of this group is to constantly hurl the term paranoid at those who call out the schemes of the ARC

You buy ammo and hide guns when the country elects a black president. You're paranoid.

Yet facts exist proving that no one is paranoid. Britain registered handguns and then banned the entire lot of them based on ONE NUT killing kids at Dunblaine in 1997. Florio banned thousands of semi auto rifles in NJ after dems pushed for registration (replete with promises that the registration would never be used for confiscation)

When you have some actual facts that Obama is coming for your legal handguns and firearms, let us know.

until then, you're paranoid.

California and NYC also used registration lists for confiscation as did Australia

Confiscation of what? Illegal hand guns. People in CA still own as many guns as they can afford--trust me, I live here.
 
You buy ammo and hide guns when the country elects a black president. You're paranoid.
This has **** all to do with race. Buy a clue.
 
In 1992 Bill Clinton and Al Gore were elected president and Vice President. Their prior records did not indicate a malicious hatred of gun ownership. Clinton had been pictured shooting ducks with a semi automatic benelli shotgun and Al Gore had been an A RATED NRA senator for most of his career. The speaker of the house, Jim Wright was also an NRA A rated congressman. Yet, that administration passed a gun ban that caused 17 round glock magazines to go from 15 dollar a piece in 1993 to over 100 dollars in 1995.

I was a top level IPSC shooter shooting Craig Custom Para Ord guns in limited and on EAA's Gold Team in Open. normal capacity magazines were necessary to compete at the master level in that game and magazines for those guns quadrupled in cost due to the clinton gun ban.

Those who did not stock up before the CG Ban took effect had to pay thousands of extra dollars to compete.

So, when we have a presidential candidate who claimed that all handguns should be banned, running with a VP who was rated among the three worst senators by every pro gun group and when dealing with a SOTH who also was an F rated congresstwit by every major gun owner group it was SENSIBLE for people to stock up on stuff that was banned by clinton



Of course people like you think anyone who owns a gun is paranoid in the first place but the real mental illness is denying the obvious and ignoring history
 
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This has **** all to do with race. Buy a clue.

He seems to think that no one should study history

its like him claiming that until you get lung cancer from smoking you are paranoid to avoid that vice.
 
He seems to think that no one should study history

its like him claiming that until you get lung cancer from smoking you are paranoid to avoid that vice.
You give him way too much credit, I think. :rofl
 
As to california, you cannot buy lots of stuff we can own legally here in Ohio.

They even make California legal AR-15's that have a FIXED Magazine rather than a detachable one. Half the handguns advertised in SHOTGUN NEWS say

NOT FOR SALE IN CALIFORNIA

here check this out

Austrian Glock 22 .40S&W Police Trade-In Pistols

(not for sale in California with 15 round magazine)

or

DS Arms STG58 FAL 308cal Rifle

Not for sale in several blue states including california
 
Would someone who believes these peopel show the rest of us specific examples that our 2nd amenedment rights are going to be "taken away".

TurtleDude showed some pretty good examples.

Also are these people just telling the big lie and hoping that no one will question it ?

How is a lie? The states most of these liberal politicians come from have the most anti-2nd amendment laws in the country. So why the hell is it unreasonable or even paranoid to think that these same people from these anti-2nd amendment states might want to do the same for the rest of the country? Calling 2nd amendment advocates paranoid is like calling the parents of fallen soldiers paranoid for thinking that Fred Phelps might come protest at their funeral or its like calling a guy who lives in a high crime area paranoid for putting an alarm system in his house and bars on his windows.
 
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"I don't have any evidence that Obama wants to take my guns BUT HE WANTS TO!"

Obama's attorney general Eric Holder stated that the Obama Administration will seek to reenact the Assault Weapons Ban. Please note that the ban does not deal with silenced weapons or machine guns or short-barreled shotguns, it deals with semiautomatic rifles/shotguns/handguns and firearm magazines that hold over 10 bullets.

Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban - ABC News
 
Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia - CNN.com

Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

They say that they are "angry" and that teir specific fear: " Americans' right to bear arms under the Second Amendment will be taken away."

They also claim that thay are not happy with "the direction the government's going in right now, and I believe that our Second Amendment rights are in trouble, "

Would someone who believes these peopel show the rest of us specific examples that our 2nd amenedment rights are going to be "taken away".

Also are these people just telling the big lie and hoping that no one will question it ?

It's their way to protest the fact that they don't like that we have a black president. It's really very simple.
 
Obama's attorney general Eric Holder stated that the Obama Administration will seek to reenact the Assault Weapons Ban. Please note that the ban does not deal with silenced weapons or machine guns or short-barreled shotguns, it deals with semiautomatic rifles/shotguns/handguns and firearm magazines that hold over 10 bullets.

Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban - ABC News

Interesting that you would leave out the statement in the article that said that Bush did the same thing. So let's not pretend this isn't about race.
 
Having studied the ARC for over 30 years, I have noted that one of the tactics of this group is to constantly hurl the term paranoid at those who call out the schemes of the ARC

Yet facts exist proving that no one is paranoid. Britain registered handguns and then banned the entire lot of them based on ONE NUT killing kids at Dunblaine in 1997. Florio banned thousands of semi auto rifles in NJ after dems pushed for registration (replete with promises that the registration would never be used for confiscation)

California and NYC also used registration lists for confiscation as did Australia

Hand guns aren't banned in the UK. They are regulated. Not banned.
 
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