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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    Hand guns aren't banned in the UK. They are regulated. Not banned.
    wrong

    private ownership of handguns was banned in ENgland following Dunblane

    I know I spent several years "shooting" in Somerset at Chargot and Miltons. My loader was a retired "armed constable". He couldn't own the weapon he carried in service to his queen and country. British pistol shooters have to train outside of England for the Olympic games.

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    Following the Dunblane massacre, the government passed the Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997 which means that as of 1997 handguns have been almost completely banned for private ownership, although the official inquiry, known as the Cullen Inquiry, did not go so far as to recommend such action.[23] Exceptions to the ban include muzzle-loading "blackpowder" guns, pistols produced before 1917, pistols of historical interest (such as pistols used in notable crimes, rare prototypes, unusual serial numbers and so on), starting pistols, pistols that are of particular aesthetic interest (such as engraved or jewelled guns) and shot pistols for pest control. Under certain circumstances, individuals may be issued a PPW (Personal Protection Weapon) licence. Even the UK's Olympic shooters fall under this ban; shooters can only train in Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man, or abroad.[24]

    Following the awarding of the 2012 Olympic Games to London, the government announced that special dispensation would be granted to allow the various shooting events to go ahead, as had been the case previously for the 2002 Commonwealth Games. However, it was still illegal for Britain's top pistol shooters to train in England, Scotland or Wales. As a result, British shooters currently spend 20 to 30 days a year training in Switzerland, and receive no public sports funding because their events are considered illegal in the UK


    what a silly arse reaction on the part of the silly brits



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Yawn

    you are playing the typical ARC game

    the frog needs to jump before the water boils
    What or who be this ARC guy ?
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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    What or who be this ARC guy ?
    You are a newcomer to the issue then

    ARC--Anti Rights Coalition



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    It's their way to protest the fact that they don't like that we have a black president. It's really very simple.
    I was hoping that we were past all of that and that is why I was looking for an answer.
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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    So are you saying that any type of weapons system in the hands of any and all citizens was the aim of the 2nd amendment ?

    Now think about it before you answer because remember that when the 2nd amendment was enqacted power discharged weapons were limited to muskets ( I will include the Kentucky rifled Rilfe in that) cannons, and mortors which at that time were nothing more than short stiby cannons.

    So should the avaerage homeowner also have a right to own a :

    surface to air missle ?
    your standard suburband tactical nike ?
    fighter jets with smart and dumb weapons ?
    machine guns ?
    Reductio ad absurdum. Logic FAIL.

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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I was hoping that we were past all of that and that is why I was looking for an answer.
    Most of us are. The only ones left are the ones who whip out the race card in the face of a legitimate political criticism. It's a shame, really.

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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Aps, come on now you are better than this. :
    I was and am hoping that race was not the answer but why now and why now with such harsh rhetoric ?
    I do not recall the Viet Cong asking me if I was a natural born or Naturalized American before they shot at me, they just shot at all of us f107HyperSabr

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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Reductio ad absurdum. Logic FAIL.
    when we all can own the stuff that is clearly protected by the second amendment--submachine guns, real assault rifles, high capacity semi auto handguns--ie stuff that civilian law enforcement officers already use (and thus establish an estoppel against any government unit that so issues such weapons from claiming these firearms have no civilian use) t hen we can start talking about stuff that bruises the line between an individual infantry small arm and "artillery" and Ordnance (like an M79 grenade launcher or strela SAM)



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    OMG, you can't be serious. And some of us are calling gun-owners paranoid?
    ok, so what is the reason for why now, why how with such harsh rhetoric when there has not been a significant federal law on "gun control" in 17 years ? If ADPS is all wet let's proove hm so !!
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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    ok, so what is the reason for why now, why how with such harsh rhetoric when there has not been a significant federal law on "gun control" in 17 years ? If ADPS is all wet let's proove hm so !!
    for 160 years there was no federal gun control laws because people actually understood the second amendment.



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