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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    You infered a pro gun stance by the left. That was dishonest. I corrected you.

    Totally wrong, You need to reread his statement and knock off the twisting of facts. I realize it is so easier to twist things to make them fit into your agenda.

    Originally Posted by misterman
    The funniest part is they were able to carry their guns onto federal parkland because of a new law passed by the Democratic Congress and signed by Obama.


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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Actually I believe that the CALIFORNIA law was more of a "assault weapons" look alike ban then the Clinton ban.

    Ok so the activity in gun control or tightening up was 17 years ago so you have not explained why all of a sudden we have a fear of 2nd amendment going away. So Obama did something 17 years ago??
    are you playing stupid? Obama and Biden have the most anti gun record leading into the election of any ticket in US History.



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Totally wrong, You need to reread his statement and knock off the twisting of facts. I realize it is so easier to twist things to make them fit into your agenda.
    The Reverend was correct. The person he corrected tried to insinuate that the Obama administration loosened restrictions on gun possession in parks



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    are you playing stupid? Obama and Biden have the most anti gun record leading into the election of any ticket in US History.
    Really, What laws did they specifically pass to outlaw gun ?
    I do not recall the Viet Cong asking me if I was a natural born or Naturalized American before they shot at me, they just shot at all of us f107HyperSabr

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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Really, What laws did they specifically pass to outlaw gun ?
    This sort of evasive nonesense is pathetic. Biden was a major architect and sponsor of the clinton gun ban.



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Well lets see what has happened over the last 50 or so years

    In 1934 FDR thought placing an onerous tax on machine guns would get rid of the prohibition era gangs. He used the commerce clause to accomplish this unconstitutional bit of nonsense

    in 1968 we had the GCA of 68. It banned mail order guns, it prevented me, someone who lives 15 minutes from KY from buying a handgun there, and it set forth recordkeeping of gun purchases. You also had to show IDs to get ammo though that was rescinded later on.


    In 1986, in a violation of the senate rules etc Dem gun hater Congressman Hughes tried to derail the McClure Voker FOPA by attaching a ban on the ownership of any automatic weapon made after may 19, 1986 even though there had never been a case since the 1934 act of a machine gun legally owned being used in a crime save for a dayton cop killing someone with an uzi

    In 1993 the dems with clinton passed the brady bill. Though part of it was stricken (mandates on the states) it forced waiting periods on people thus engaging in prior restraint

    Then came the idiotic Clinton gun ban that banned the sale of scary looking guns and magazines that carried more than 10 rounds

    Other proposals dems have floated included a punitive "arsenal tax" on anyone owning more than a thousand rounds (two weeks of practice for a serious shooter) or 20 guns, bans on all semi autos, bans on all handguns, bans on certain calibers , etc.

    Yeah gun owners are paranoid--the dems never have any desire to infringe on our rights
    All of those things that you cited were checks on gun ownership and/or purschase but where and when did this happen "" Americans' right to bear arms under the Second Amendment will be taken away." ??

    What specifically has Obama done to "Second Amendment will be taken away." ??
    I do not recall the Viet Cong asking me if I was a natural born or Naturalized American before they shot at me, they just shot at all of us f107HyperSabr

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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    All of those things that you cited were checks on gun ownership and/or purschase but where and when did this happen "" Americans' right to bear arms under the Second Amendment will be taken away." ??

    What specifically has Obama done to "Second Amendment will be taken away." ??
    I guess you will play stupid about the incremental approach to banning guns

    what part of shall not infringe do you not get?

    There are two ways to kill someone with a knife

    You can stab them in a major artery, the heart or the brain

    or you can cut them here and there and they will slowly bleed to death. Gun banners cannot do the former so they brag about the latter. We know it, and they have admitted to it

    so if we don't want our gun rights to die. we counter the first scratch the gun banners try to inflict.

    All of what I posted are cuts designed to bleed the right to death



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Having studied the ARC for over 30 years, I have noted that one of the tactics of this group is to constantly hurl the term paranoid at those who call out the schemes of the ARC

    Yet facts exist proving that no one is paranoid. Britain registered handguns and then banned the entire lot of them based on ONE NUT killing kids at Dunblaine in 1997. Florio banned thousands of semi auto rifles in NJ after dems pushed for registration (replete with promises that the registration would never be used for confiscation)

    California and NYC also used registration lists for confiscation as did Australia
    Confication of al gun?? I don't think so ?
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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Confication of al gun?? I don't think so ?
    Yawn

    you are playing the typical ARC game

    the frog needs to jump before the water boils



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess you will play stupid about the incremental approach to banning guns

    what part of shall not infringe do you not get?

    There are two ways to kill someone with a knife

    You can stab them in a major artery, the heart or the brain

    or you can cut them here and there and they will slowly bleed to death. Gun banners cannot do the former so they brag about the latter. We know it, and they have admitted to it

    so if we don't want our gun rights to die. we counter the first scratch the gun banners try to inflict.

    All of what I posted are cuts designed to bleed the right to death
    So are you saying that any type of weapons system in the hands of any and all citizens was the aim of the 2nd amendment ?

    Now think about it before you answer because remember that when the 2nd amendment was enqacted power discharged weapons were limited to muskets ( I will include the Kentucky rifled Rilfe in that) cannons, and mortors which at that time were nothing more than short stiby cannons.

    So should the avaerage homeowner also have a right to own a :

    surface to air missle ?
    your standard suburband tactical nike ?
    fighter jets with smart and dumb weapons ?
    machine guns ?
    I do not recall the Viet Cong asking me if I was a natural born or Naturalized American before they shot at me, they just shot at all of us f107HyperSabr

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