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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Part of the problem with hoplophobes, is that in their focus on the weapon used in a crime, they fail to understand a fundamental truth:

    There are no "dangerous weapons", only dangerous men.

    (and he remains dangerous even if his only weapon on hand is a brick.)


    We need criminal control, not gun control.
    or that guns in the hands of honest citizens DECREASE CRIME and that is the only group that is denied gun ownership by gun control laws.

    Thus gun control INCREASES CRIME



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    or that guns in the hands of honest citizens DECREASE CRIME and that is the only group that is denied gun ownership by gun control laws.

    Thus gun control INCREASES CRIME
    With any gun control laws that have ever been passed. Has an honest citizen ever flat out been denied the sale of a gun?

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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    With any gun control laws that have ever been passed. Has an honest citizen ever flat out been denied the sale of a gun?
    Yes. in chicago you cannot buy a handgun. same in DC until recently. in california, all sorts of guns are banned for sale

    merely saying hey you can buy a single shot rifle and thus you can buy a gun is specious

    just like telling a Baptist he can attend a Roman Catholic Mass but not a sermon from a Baptist Preacher.



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    With any gun control laws that have ever been passed. Has an honest citizen ever flat out been denied the sale of a gun?
    thousands of people were denied buying guns by the brady bill based on bad information. some had to go through all sorts of machinations to be able to buy a gun.

    and none of that crap really made anyone safer save criminals



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    thousands of people were denied buying guns by the brady bill based on bad information. some had to go through all sorts of machinations to be able to buy a gun.

    and none of that crap really made anyone safer save criminals
    Interesting. What sort of machinations are we talking about?

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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Interesting. What sort of machinations are we talking about?
    hiring an attorney, filing Freedom of Information requests etc.



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    hiring an attorney, filing Freedom of Information requests etc.
    sounds messy. I can fully understand peoples frustration then. I mean I may disagree with having a gun, but if its in your constitution, then I guess you should be able to get one.

    Are you opposed to a backround check before buying a gun?

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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    sounds messy. I can fully understand peoples frustration then. I mean I may disagree with having a gun, but if its in your constitution, then I guess you should be able to get one.

    Are you opposed to a backround check before buying a gun?
    Nope even though it technically violates the Shall not infringe

    since it does not really interfere with someone excercising their rights

    the problem is lots of legitimate people get delayed which is a constitutional violation in my book

    Why do you disagree with people having guns>



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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Nope even though it technically violates the Shall not infringe

    since it does not really interfere with someone excercising their rights

    the problem is lots of legitimate people get delayed which is a constitutional violation in my book

    Why do you disagree with people having guns>
    I don't disagree with people having guns per-say. I personally don't own, or want to own one. I'd love to go down to the range and fire some off, I have weapons training from British Royal Air Force Cadets. I guess in some way, especially here in Canada where shootings in homes are rare, if I pulled a gun on a burglar, the chances of one of us dying may dramatically go up if he panics. You're average Canadian criminal does not have the intent of harming you when he enters your house, but at that point it can turn into in his mind a kill or be killed situation, and you would hope runs out the house, or pulls a gun of his own or knife.

    Thats a trivial situation and I've typed it now so I don't want it all to go to waste.

    People have the right to defend themselves, if they feel a gun is nessecary, then I suppose they are entitled to it. It just boggles my mind how unbelievably massive all your bills have to be, my god!

    Bill for gun control

    Rule 1 - Have a criminal backround check, if it passes here's your gun.

    End of story.

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    Re: Gun rights advocates rally in Washington, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    With any gun control laws that have ever been passed. Has an honest citizen ever flat out been denied the sale of a gun?



    Welcome to the state of NJ, where with the swipe of a pen, not only were citizens denied the sale of certain guns, but many instantly became outlaws, owning weapons that based on cosmetics were now banned.....



    I owned a Marlin .22 at the time. I was an outlaw.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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