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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Spoken like a true denier of the facts.
    I would take this teacher's story more seriously if he'd provided actually quotes from the curriculum and/or footnotes, as any thoughtful academic would know to do. It sounds like someone who got butt hurt because he was usurped in his own classroom. Teachers can be huge egomaniacs.

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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Oh yes thats all illegals do is sell oranges on the side of the ****ing road.
    And dig our ditches.
    And manage our sewers.
    And clean rich bastards homes.
    And work the agriculture jobs.
    And take your garbage to the dump.
    And paint your house.
    And do your yard work.
    And clean public bathrooms.
    And help people move furniture.
    And do laundry for the hotels.
    And help build our roads.
    And fix holes in our roofs.

    In other words, they do the jobs that Americans don't want to take. You should be saying thank you.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I would take this teacher's story more seriously if he'd provided actually quotes from the curriculum and/or footnotes, as any thoughtful academic would know to do. It sounds like someone who got butt hurt because he was usurped in his own classroom. Teachers can be huge egomaniacs.
    So you have no evidence to doubt him but you do so anyway.

    Classic.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post


    Yep, just keep spreading the hate. You sound like the KKK with a line like that...
    I just find it absurd that people who pray to/venerate saints can call themselves Christians, most Christians share this view. It has nothing to do with hatred but everything to do with Exodus 20:3-4/Deuteronomy 5:7-8. If you notice I do not jump on the bash the catholic church bandwagon every time some phony Catholic politician gets called out by his priest.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    In all that, you give two sources.
    2 more than you provided.

    One is some little anti-immigration group in Colorodo, the other is Michelle Malkin, who passes along an anecdote and manages to repeatedly misname La Raza(Which the organization itself uses to mean "The community" or "The People").
    Oh please. La Raza means the race. Not the commuinity. Don't read the definition from LA Raza's website, look it up for yourself.

    Main Entry: raza
    Function: feminine noun
    Language: Spanish

    1 : race <raza humana : human race>
    2 : breed, strain
    3 de raza : thoroughbred, pedigreed


    Raza - Definition and More from Merriam-Webster's Free Spanish-English Dictionary

    You also make a number of other factually incorrect statements. La Raza, while primarily a hispanic organization, does not limit itself in any way to "aztec's", and in fact some of their programs benefit whites.
    NAME THEM.

    You can't just make statements like that without factual backing.

    They do not support open immigration from the south, and in fact have backed and help with legislation that strengthened border enforcement.
    Completely False and I challenge you to find any law they support that calls for enforcement of immigration law towards illegals.

    I can find no evidence to back your claim of them flying one flag. The closest is a comment from Lou Dobbs, which involves student rallies where some of the students waved the Mexican flag.
    I gave you the link. Did you not click on it?

    Source for my facts: National Council of La Raza: Viewpoints

    Specific links at bottom of page.
    Cite them specifically. Don't just throw out a link and expect people to find what you are trying to prove.

    You attacked my sources then you link to La Raza's home page as your "evidence"??

    The very definition of Irony.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    And dig our ditches.
    And manage our sewers.
    And clean rich bastards homes.
    And work the agriculture jobs.
    And take your garbage to the dump.
    And paint your house.
    And do your yard work.
    And clean public bathrooms.
    And help people move furniture.
    And do laundry for the hotels.
    And help build our roads.
    And fix holes in our roofs.

    In other words, they do the jobs that Americans don't want to take. You should be saying thank you.
    To be fair, non-Hispanics/non-illegals take those jobs, too. I've personally cleaned house for many people, cleaned bathrooms (thousands, literally), and done load after load of hotel laundry. And there are plenty of towns and cities that don't have large Hispanic populations, where these jobs are done by all races and ethnicities.

    Sorry, but I've never fully bought this argument.

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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    To be fair, non-Hispanics/non-illegals take those jobs, too. I've personally cleaned house for many people, cleaned bathrooms (thousands, literally), and done load after load of hotel laundry. And there are plenty of towns and cities that don't have large Hispanic populations, where these jobs are done by all races and ethnicities.

    Sorry, but I've never fully bought this argument.
    To understand their position you have to ignore the immigration law.

    Once you do that, its easy.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    2 more than you provided.
    Actually, I provided a source, with links to several factual(not opinion) sources that outnumber your 2 op-eds.


    Oh please. La Raza means the race. Not the commuinity. Don't read the definition from LA Raza's website, look it up for yourself.

    Main Entry: raza
    Function: feminine noun
    Language: Spanish

    1 : race <raza humana : human race>
    2 : breed, strain
    3 de raza : thoroughbred, pedigreed


    Raza - Definition and More from Merriam-Webster's Free Spanish-English Dictionary
    Or we could go to wiki: [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_raza]La Raza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    Quote Originally Posted by wiki
    In the Spanish language the term La Raza literally means "the race" or generally and symbolically "the people." Its meaning varies amongst various Spanish-speaking peoples. In Spain, "Raza" may denote specifically Spanish and often of a something or someone of an European Christian heritage. The Francoist film Raza, from 1944, which celebrates ideally Spanish qualities, is an example of this usage. In Latin America, depending on the location, it may primarily emphasize Spanish and European heritage, such as the name Dia de la Raza to mark the arrival of Christopher Columbus to America. In other Latin American contexts, it is used more expansively to describe the race formed by the fusion of White people, Native American and African peoples in America.

    In the United States, "La Raza" is sometimes used to denote people of Chicano and Mexican descent as well as other Latin American mestizos who share Native American heritage. The term is rarely inclusive of entirely European or African descended Hispanic peoples.
    Damn, that really makes you look bad. A full definition, which goes hand in hand with what the people who named themselves that claim to use it to mean. So, I could believe you, or the people who actually use it. Wonder who is more likely to be right...


    NAME THEM.

    You can't just make statements like that without factual backing.
    Why not, you did and do.

    Of course, I can back my claims, using the sourcing I provided. National Council of La Raza: Solely Hispanic-serving Programs

    For example, in 2006, as part of NCLR’s homeownership program, NCLR Affiliates served about 29,000 clients. Almost 20% were White and approximately 12% were Black.
    That sounds like such a racist bunch.

    Completely False and I challenge you to find any law they support that calls for enforcement of immigration law towards illegals.
    National Council of La Raza: NCLR APPLAUDS INTRODUCTION OF BIPARTISAN COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM BILL

    Quote Originally Posted by press release
    The National Council of La Raza (NCLR), the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the U.S., welcomed the introduction of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act. These comprehensive immigration reform bills, introduced by Senators Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and John McCain (R-AZ) and by Reps. Jim Kolbe (R-AZ), Jeff Flake (R-AZ) and Luis Gutierrez (D-IL), would allow for the orderly and legal immigration of needed workers, reunite American families, provide for stronger enforcement of labor and immigration laws, and make our nation more secure.
    When you get done blustering and moving the goalposts, I do have more waiting.

    I gave you the link. Did you not click on it?
    Not on a post I saw. I can find no backing evidence on any search I have tried. SO feel free to show some evidence your claim is true. You have totally failed so far,

    Cite them specifically. Don't just throw out a link and expect people to find what you are trying to prove.

    You attacked my sources then you link to La Raza's home page as your "evidence"??

    The very definition of Irony.
    It is better to find out what an organization actually is from them, not from people trying to spin what they are. You are welcome to show where anything on their website is factually incorrect. It is certainly more likely to be correct than some anecdote posted by Michelle Malkin, or some Colorado anti-immigration group.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Never understood why the dregs of the white race tend to be the white "Supremacists"
    Little Dog Syndrome.

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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    And dig our ditches.
    And manage our sewers.
    And clean rich bastards homes.
    And work the agriculture jobs.
    And take your garbage to the dump.
    And paint your house.
    And do your yard work.
    And clean public bathrooms.
    And help people move furniture.
    And do laundry for the hotels.
    And help build our roads.
    And fix holes in our roofs.

    In other words, they do the jobs that Americans don't want to take.
    Wrong. Illegals do not do those things where I live and I am pretty sure illegals do not do things in many parts of the US as well. Only in Sanctuary states and cities illegals do those things. As for housework, lawn maintenance, furniture moving, roof repair and many other things many Americans do those things themselves. Most Americans do not look down on those who do those jobs.

    You should be saying thank you.


    Why should I thank an illegal for stealing a job from my fellow Americans and causing many of those people to be on public assistance?
    Why should I thank an illegal for devaluing my fellow American's jobs and causing many of those people to be on public assistance?
    Why should I thank illegals for sending that cash home when it could have been spent here in the US?
    Why should I thank an illegal for the additional criminals they bring over that are currently in prison for offenses other than illegal immigration?
    Why Should I thank an illegal for the kids he brought over that I have to pay to educate.
    Why should I thank an illegal for all the bilingual signs, police officers and ballots to accommodate all the lazy ****s who refuse to learn English?
    Why should I thank an illegal for the scumbags that hire them not paying any taxes?


    Do you thank a burglar for breaking into your house and stealing your things or a burglar who does the same thing to your neighbor's house? Americans in pro-illegals states could have worked those jobs. So the only thing illegals deserve is a minimum of six months incarceration or two years if second offense and then deported.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 04-19-10 at 02:15 PM.
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